New ICE Vehicles Banned in California by 2035

[ZDan]

Originally Posted by Arthur-A

Lol, the amount of shills pushing Schwab's agenda on a forum dedicated to performance cars is hilarious.

Imagine a world, in which people are manipulated into consuming as much fossil fuel and emitting as much CO2 as they possibly can, and then thinking that any effort to reverse that trend is a *conspiracy*! Well, you don't have to imagine too hard...

[Lantanafrs2]

I've never felt manipulated into driving a car. I've never seen internal combustion as a political agenda, grouped in with gender switching and sexual immorality

[Irace86.2.0]

Originally Posted by Lantanafrs2

I have no problem with evs. It's the cow farts I'm concerned with. All that poisonous methane being produced. I'm sure gates and shwab are near a solution for that though. Maybe no more meat?

I’m plant based.

Weird to think there is more biomass of pets than all wild land mammals. Lots of cow farts, methane burbs, water, feedstock and land for one species. Probably will need to go in the long run unless we have population collapse. Maybe Musk has convinced enough people to have ten babies, in which case, eventually the cows will be next on the chopping block—pun intended.

[soundman98]

is that 358 americans or 358 frenchmen?

[Irace86.2.0]

Originally Posted by Lantanafrs2

I've never felt manipulated into driving a car. I've never seen internal combustion as a political agenda, grouped in with gender switching and sexual immorality

What do you mean? It is right now.

[Irace86.2.0]

Originally Posted by soundman98

is that 358 americans or 358 frenchmen?

More Americans in that 358 million tons.

[Dadhawk]

Originally Posted by Lantanafrs2

I have no problem with evs. It's the cow farts I'm concerned with. All that poisonous methane being produced. I'm sure gates and shwab are near a solution for that though. Maybe no more meat?

Sounds like the cows just need a better tune to me.

[Spuds]

Originally Posted by ZDan

Having owned and tracked a 6.8 liter LS3 FD, I have to assume this is a sad, sad joke

I assumed the joke started at "forum dedicated to performance cars"

[weederr33]

I'm fine with ridding the planet of cows and never eating beef again. I do, however, love fish, chicken, and occasionally, lobster.

[ZDan]

Originally Posted by Lantanafrs2

I've never felt manipulated into driving a car.

I'm sure none of my road-hogging, view-blocking, gas-guzzling SUV and truck commuting brethren and sistren *feel* like they've been manipulated into driving the most fossil-fuel-consuming vehicles possible, but they kinda have been...

I've never seen internal combustion as a political agenda, grouped in with gender switching and sexual immorality

The gender-switching and "sexual immorality" of others is none of your business and doesn't affect you, unless you decide it should.

Others commuting in 5000-6000 lb behemoths *does*. Decades of inaction and encouraging of bigger/heavier vehicles is going to make the change more drastic/dramatic. But we *have* to reduce our CO2 emissions.

[Lantanafrs2]

"Decades of inaction"? Where have you been? Emissions regs have gotten tighter and tighter especially in furryfornia.

[Irace86.2.0]

Originally Posted by Lantanafrs2

"Decades of inaction"? Where have you been? Emissions regs have gotten tighter and tighter especially in furryfornia.

Knowing ZDan’s prior arguments, he is probably referring to the stance that there has been decades of policies and loopholes that have allowed trucks and SUVs to have a double standard on emissions, and that has only encouraged manufacturers to adopt more and more trucks/CUVs/SUVs that allow them to take advantage of these loopholes. The saying is that customers are driven to SUVs and trucks, but why? Most don’t tow, haul, go off-road or ever need AWD or 4WD, yet most overestimate how much they need these features and overestimate the safety/utility of these features despite evidence suggesting SUVs are less safe or that AWD is not necessary in many place almost all the time. The government didn’t have to make loopholes, and by making a double standard, it helped to get us here: giant polluting vehicles for the vast majority of people on the road.

Furries don’t have emissions. They use Foleys and dignity tubes.

[Arthur-A]

I hate SUVs, especially the crossover ones. One of the most retarded types of vehicles, made for soccermoms. Pickups and body on frame ones on general, well, some people actually need them. But then there are retards who buy them and never ever leave pavement or haul anything. That's kind of a problem.
For the most part, a wagon would be a much better solution for anyone needing extra space, and they actually have more usable space than these stupid SUVs while being the same size of a sedan. Plus they have way better mileage, better ride quality and handling.

[Arthur-A]

But still, people should be free to buy whatever vehicle they want, otherwise it'll be a turd-world totalitarian shithole.