FR-Sandwhich: Total or not total?

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by BlackJesus

That's true but it still can't take a hit lol. A wild shopping cart dented my fender.

We do pay the price for light weight.

[a_dee]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

We do pay the price for light weight.

I don't get why it's considered lightweight. 2700 lbs isn't that light and a type-r or any integra from yesteryear was around the same and no one claimed that was lightweight.

[jaorocks1]

Part out those buddy clubs though?...

[Dake]

Originally Posted by raven1231

Were you not running plates ?

I believe California doesn't do temp tags. You buy a new car and drive around with basically nothing except your bill of sale until your actual tags arrive.

[raven1231]

Originally Posted by Dake

I believe California doesn't do temp tags. You buy a new car and drive around with basically nothing except your bill of sale until your actual tags arrive.

Very strange...

[raven1231]

Originally Posted by a_dee

I don't get why it's considered lightweight. 2700 lbs isn't that light and a type-r or any integra from yesteryear was around the same and no one claimed that was lightweight.

Compared to most other modern sports cars it definitely is

[why?]

There is no way to tell from those pictures. You need to go in the engine bay and under the car to check for frame damage. As was said above find a good/great body shop that advertises they will give a lifetime warranty on any work they do. They will be thorough and check every mm for damage and be able to say if the car is worth repairing or not. A cheap shop might repair it with crap parts and the car might be horrendous for the rest of its life while a great shop would seek out all the damage and be up front that the car is not worth repairing.

[Hotrodheart]

Originally Posted by Joshwahhhs

Hey guys, I just got rear ended by a driver on the free way and got sandwiched behind another car. Everyone was okay but I think I got whiplash. The airbag went off and there's plenty of damage on the front and rear. It wasn't drivable since the muffler would drag on the street.

What do you guys think?

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I say tow it back to South Bay Ford and tell them you changed your mind.

[Caspeed]

Originally Posted by NWFRS

Hopefully those non-DOT tail lamps don't become an issue...

If they do the car still has a Temp Tag on it so I assume it was just purchased used. You might have some recourse with the dealer.

[HunterGreene]

Originally Posted by bigred010

this car looks totaled. Once airbags go off, say good buy to the value of the car. from the pics, the rear bumper doesn't look terrible, but there might be some underlying issues we're not seeing. make sure you take this car to a proper auto body shop and have them remove the bumper to check for further damage. had an accident like this before and the adjuster didn't even take off the bumper. lucky for me, my room-mates' brother was an adjuster at another bodyshop and when i brought it to him, he found more damage after removing the bumper. GL

Most adjusters don't do a full write-up...they leave that to the body shop. Its a rough estimate to start. Once the body shop gets in there, they do what you say--take off all the external pieces and keep digging until they don't find any more damage, then do a final estimate. An adjuster may not total the car, but it may be determined to be totalled after the body shop gets a look.

And OP, sorry about your accident. Hoping for the best!

[xuimod]

Originally Posted by extrashaky

Here's a pretty decent article that lists the loss thresholds by state. They vary from 50% in Iowa to 100% in Texas, and then you have a bunch of total loss formula (TLF) states that use the formula I mentioned above.

When is A Vehicle Considered a Total Loss?

That variation is one of the reasons we see people get into arguments on here about whether a car is totaled. A car that will be totaled in one state may not be in another, and people make snap judgments based on where they are rather than the rules in the state where the vehicle is located.

Lol, holy shit @ Texas being 100%. You are pretty much dead if your car is totaled in Texas.

[Dave-ROR]

Originally Posted by Caspeed

If they do the car still has a Temp Tag on it so I assume it was just purchased used. You might have some recourse with the dealer.

In Cali it seems to take at least 6 months to get actual tags so maybe not just purchased.

[evomike]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Not "fragile". Well designed. Those crumple zones save lives. Look at it as your car sacrificing it's self to keep you and your passengers alive.

no these cars are fragile I have never been a fan of the way a Subaru takes a hit

[extrashaky]

Originally Posted by xuimod

Lol, holy shit @ Texas being 100%. You are pretty much dead if your car is totaled in Texas.

Not necessarily. The way it works is the department of insurance tells the insurers that above this level, you have to total it, and below this level, you don't have to total it. The insurance company has the option of totaling a car below the threshold if it makes financial sense. The total loss threshold is where the state insurance department says it must be totaled.

Suppose you had a car worth $10K with $8K worth of damage, but the salvage value is $5K. The insurance company could decide not to total it and be out $8K for the repairs. Or the insurance company could go ahead and total it, pay you the $10K value and get $5K back from salvage. Then they'd only be out $5K. (That's an oversimplification, but it works to illustrate the issue.) Even though the state says they don't have to total it, since it didn't exceed 100%, they can go ahead and do it anyway if it benefits them.

The only time the insurance company would be required to total that car in Texas is when the cost of repairs exceeds $10K. But in that case it would probably make financial sense for the insurance company to total it anyway, since they can just pay you the value of the car and save money.