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Old 09-16-2020, 02:02 PM   #547
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It's too cool for you guys...
But you guys can't drive MT... So no idea why it's heading over to your shores..
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It’s Official: Nissan Won’t Bring The New Z Sports Car To Europe

https://www.400zclub.com/forum/threa...to-europe.109/
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Euro emissions more trouble than it's worth apparently.
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That’s how Nissan will keep the price cheap. Minimal investment in design changes and sharing of parts.

Wait.. I thought this thing was rumored to start at roughly $45,000? That isn’t cheap imo. Unless they also introduce the 2.0t and/or base 3.0TT tune from the Q60 as cheaper trims.


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Wait.. I thought this thing was rumored to start at roughly $45,000? That isn’t cheap imo. Unless they also introduce the 2.0t and/or base 3.0TT tune from the Q60 as cheaper trims.


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Yeah, i'm thinking this is going to be supra $$$ and not eight six $$$.
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You don't need to rub it in!!
At least you get the GR Yaris
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Just pop some fog lights (or GASP fake vents) into that blank space under the headlights and all would be good. It just looks like something is missing with just the lights and grill up front.
As I said in Random but just to catch the thread up, needs a new hood similar to the legacy Zs, then I would agree with you. It would break it up and allow for potential mods under the hood.


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But you guys can't drive MT... So no idea why it's heading over to your shores..
They need a reason NOT to sell them.

Once they see sales numbers and assuming the MT take rate is low, they'll be like "see no one wants an MT....so its only autos from here on out!"

At least it isnt a CVT....


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But you guys can't drive MT... So no idea why it's heading over to your shores..
So only the cool people that can drive MT can have one!
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Wait.. I thought this thing was rumored to start at roughly $45,000? That isn’t cheap imo. Unless they also introduce the 2.0t and/or base 3.0TT tune from the Q60 as cheaper trims.


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It is all speculation. I think they will keep the entry price cheap in the low to mid $30k’s. Currently, the entry is $31k and the Nismo is $45k. They could make the car more premium like the Supra, but I doubt it. The VR30 is essentially a VQ with turbos, and it is the new standard, so I don’t expect that it will significantly raise the price. I would be shocked if the entry level Z was $40k.
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So only the cool people that can drive MT can have one!
Yes, that's exactly what I was thinking but couldn't find the words...
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Euro emissions more trouble than it's worth apparently.
Nah, they still mad about Ghosn. j/k?
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I'm sorry, but having driven a few of Nissan's recent cars.. I just don't like how their drivelines feel. Their regulars cars ( Sentra, Altima, Rogue) all feel they are held together with bubblegum. There's just no way if I spent that amount of money on a car I could trust it to just be issue free.

Now after a test drive verified that the car was in fact not shit, and I actually had some sentiment of enjoyment, I would likely welcome it over BMYota's car. But as a mostly unbiased buyer (I don't like Nissan, BMW, or Toyota products after the 90s aside out cars), I'd stay even farther from Nissan than I would Toyota or BMW. At least Toyota feels quality, and BMW is quality.
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