Full throttle Electric Supercharger Build Thread

[Sojhinn]

Originally Posted by btoast

Yeah, I figured I would keep an eye on the voltage meter in the car to see if it struggles to get back to 28.4v.



I hope they continue to work fine. It would suck to have to buy new batteries. I still cant believe I dropped the wrench and it just happened to fall perfectly straight onto the other side. What bad luck that was.

Trust me... I know.


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[stevo585]

Originally Posted by btoast

Alright, I have joined the ESC party.

I just completed my install and took a spin around the block. WOW! This is how the car should have felt from the factory.

It took me approximately 2.5 hours to complete the install. That includes accidentally dropping my socket wrench on the dump packs and creating a circuit which shot sparks everywhere and melted part of the wrench and bolts. I needed to run down to ACE for new bolts.

The only real issue I had with the kit (aside from my own dumb mistake mentioned above), is the hose leading from the air box to the compressor is too long. I tried to cut it, but I had too much difficulty doing so with my primitive tools (I broke my only pair of scissors the other day and my x-acto blade has a rounded tip. I ultimately gave up on cutting it shorter. You will see in my photos that the compressor really needs to be shifted over about 1/4 of an inch to line up perfectly.

Other than that, the install went smooth.



My ghetto cutting did not work:


This is my only concern. This red cable touches the heat sink on the main controller box. I tried moving it but there is no way to position it where it does not touch.


My poor socket wrench:


Overall, the kit is very well put together and very easy to install. I look forward to picking up the proceed controller in a month or two.

What would you compare the extra power too? Large V6? V8?

[btoast]

Originally Posted by stevo585

What would you compare the extra power too? Large V6? V8?

It's not push you back in your seat fast. I've never had a V6 or V8 car, but it does remind me of my turbo Audi A3 in terms of acceleration.

The best way to describe this kit is 'there is no want for power.' Basically the torque dip is gone and there is a very nice, consistent, smooth pull that takes you all the way through the rev limit.

It's hard to explain other than stating that it feels how the car should have come from the factory. It does not feel tuner like a turbo or regular supercharger would feel. It just feels good. And honestly, makes you feel a lot more confident driving the car.

[DAEMANO]

Originally Posted by btoast

It's not push you back in your seat fast. I've never had a V6 or V8 car, but it does remind me of my turbo Audi A3 in terms of acceleration.

The best way to describe this kit is 'there is no want for power.' Basically the torque dip is gone and there is a very nice, consistent, smooth pull that takes you all the way through the rev limit.

It's hard to explain other than stating that it feels how the car should have come from the factory. It does not feel tuner like a turbo or regular supercharger would feel. It just feels good. And honestly, makes you feel a lot more confident driving the car.

If you can get yourself to an e85 pump, this part will change.

Closest stations are in Ontario and Upland.

http://propelfuels.com/locations/

[Sojhinn]

Originally Posted by DAEMANO

If you can get yourself to an e85 pump, this part will change.

Closest stations are in Ontario and Upland.

http://propelfuels.com/locations/

I agree. E85 is the way to go with this car. Though Ontario will be a bit of a drive from riverside.

I'm lucky enough that I have a spot about a mile away.


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[WNDSRFR]

Originally Posted by btoast

Alright, I have joined the ESC party.

I just completed my install and took a spin around the block. WOW! This is how the car should have felt from the factory.

It took me approximately 2.5 hours to complete the install. That includes accidentally dropping my socket wrench on the dump packs and creating a circuit which shot sparks everywhere and melted part of the wrench and bolts. I needed to run down to ACE for new bolts.

The only real issue I had with the kit (aside from my own dumb mistake mentioned above), is the hose leading from the air box to the compressor is too long. I tried to cut it, but I had too much difficulty doing so with my primitive tools (I broke my only pair of scissors the other day and my x-acto blade has a rounded tip. I ultimately gave up on cutting it shorter. You will see in my photos that the compressor really needs to be shifted over about 1/4 of an inch to line up perfectly.

Other than that, the install went smooth.



My ghetto cutting did not work:


This is my only concern. This red cable touches the heat sink on the main controller box. I tried moving it but there is no way to position it where it does not touch.


My poor socket wrench:


Overall, the kit is very well put together and very easy to install. I look forward to picking up the proceed controller in a month or two.

I was gonna give you some crap about not having to modify the kit. So I went out to measure my tubing and I noticed that mine is too long too! Notice that the tube is crammed on as far as it can go. See the tab on the right that acts as a stop. You can see that the compressor is clearly offset to the left.
But it's been that way for a long time now and it seems to work just fine. So I'm not going to screw with it.

[j_Zer0]

Originally Posted by j_Zer0

I also got this model of Procede. Judging by Sojhinn's install video, the two green wires hook up to the ECU, the metal loop is the ground, the serial connection is for laptop hookup and the red wire is power. This leaves me with one problem:

How am I to connect my Procede with my ESC controller? After all, the wiring that connects my ESC controller to my throttle switch doesn't have an audio jack (I have a recent v2 kit). When I asked Fenton about this he said the new kits have different connections that should hook right up to the
Procede. But how? It looks like the only option is to have a male audio jack that would hook up to the black female audio port seen in the picture.

Any thoughts @fenton @Sojhinn ?

@Shiv@Openflash,

Can you confirm that the red wire on the latest Procede units is for power? I'm only wondering because the wire is far too short to stretch from the Procede's location behind the glovebox to the fuse box (where I was planning to tap the ESC voltage display's fuse wire as per Sojhinn's install video). The red wire on my Procede is maybe 2 feet long -- I think I'd need twice this to make it close to the fuse box. Thanks.

[Sojhinn]

Originally Posted by j_Zer0

@Shiv@Openflash,

Can you confirm that the red wire on the latest Procede units is for power? I'm only wondering because the wire is far too short to stretch from the Procede's location behind the glovebox to the fuse box (where I was planning to tap the ESC voltage display's fuse wire as per Sojhinn's install video). The red wire on my Procede is maybe 2 feet long -- I think I'd need twice this to make it close to the fuse box. Thanks.

Here's the thing... I think shiv has one set of procedes for both the miatas and the ft86. So it looks like we need to move the procede to the driver side. Or you can tap the cigarette lighter in the glovebox.


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[SOAZ]

Okay guys, not trying to sell this in this thread, but wanting to give a heads up to all the folks who are obsessed with this great kit like I was.

I appreciate all of the knowledge the folks in this thread and others have been working so hard to put out there. It's time for me to suffer over an air cooled engine for hours and see if I can bring this car back to good running shape.

I have the whole package available together or in pieces.
OFT, OFH, Perrin panel filter, Phantom TQ250 kit with batteries. I'll be posting it in a minute in the classifieds.

[Sojhinn]

Originally Posted by SOAZ

Okay guys, not trying to sell this in this thread, but wanting to give a heads up to all the folks who are obsessed with this great kit like I was.



I appreciate all of the knowledge the folks in this thread and others have been working so hard to put out there. It's time for me to suffer over an air cooled engine for hours and see if I can bring this car back to good running shape.



I have the whole package available together or in pieces.

OFT, OFH, Perrin panel filter, Phantom TQ250 kit with batteries. I'll be posting it in a minute in the classifieds.

Good luck bro. Please keep us in the loop.


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[alex345]

Originally Posted by Sojhinn

I can do one tomorrow. Anything specific?


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1-60 maybe Just want to see how it looks inside cabin, the proceed probably gives it that natural feel

[l0aded]

Originally Posted by btoast

The best way to describe this kit is 'there is no want for power.' Basically the torque dip is gone and there is a very nice, consistent, smooth pull that takes you all the way through the rev limit.

It's hard to explain other than stating that it feels how the car should have come from the factory. It does not feel tuner like a turbo or regular supercharger would feel. It just feels good. And honestly, makes you feel a lot more confident driving the car.

That's exactly how I would describe it. In the stock form it feels like you have good power up to the dip then suddenly you run out almost immediately. The ESC w/ Procede picks up at the dip and makes the car feel like you have the full range of your throttle and it just keeps getting more and more power going up.

[LucidMomentum]

Originally Posted by l0aded

That's exactly how I would describe it. In the stock form it feels like you have good power up to the dip then suddenly you run out almost immediately. The ESC w/ Procede picks up at the dip and makes the car feel like you have the full range of your throttle and it just keeps getting more and more power going up.

How is it coming out of corners? I often have to downshift during a corner to make sure I "skip" the torque dip coming out of it or else I look stupid when I have to floor it in order to keep my speed up.

[KoolBRZ]

Originally Posted by LucidMomentum

How is it coming out of corners? I often have to downshift during a corner to make sure I "skip" the torque dip coming out of it or else I look stupid when I have to floor it in order to keep my speed up.

What torque dip? FI eliminates torque dip. As long as the ESC is running, there shouldn't be a torque dip, if there is, there is something wrong with the tune.