CARB certified Turbo Kits? - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

Naikon210 · 09-03-2013, 04:41 PM

Are there any turbo kits that will pass smog? Been looking around for hours. Still no luck. How about in the future?

jamesm · 09-03-2013, 05:00 PM

none available at the moment.

SmsAlSuwaidi · 09-03-2013, 05:04 PM

No FI Kit is currently CARB legal

Both the innovate and vortech are CARB pending

Sonolin · 09-03-2013, 05:06 PM

From what I understand, its a little difficult to make a carb legal turbo for this car due to the 2 catalytic converters and low space. I've also heard of other kits "frying" cats (but that was at about 400whp if I remember correctly...).

I've heard 1 vendor who mentioned they were working on a CARB legal kit, but haven't heard much in details yet. I wouldn't bet on something like this coming out for quite a while (if it even happens).

EDIT: Depending on your power levels and gas quality, the Innovate kit is looking very good. @moto-mike just got 285whp on a dynojet with the innovate, 70mm pulley (10psi), and no other exhaust/power mods from what I understand. e85 gas. Intercooler sounds necessary for those with bad gas however, and that isn't out yet... Not to mention CARB is still "pending"

SmsAlSuwaidi · 09-03-2013, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Sonolin

From what I understand, its a little difficult to make a carb legal turbo for this car due to the 2 catalytic converters and low space. I've also heard of other kits "frying" cats (but that was at about 400whp if I remember correctly...).

I've heard 1 vendor who mentioned they were working on a CARB legal kit, but haven't heard much in details yet. I wouldn't bet on something like this coming out for quite a while (if it even happens).

EDIT: Depending on your power levels and gas quality, the Innovate kit is looking very good. @moto-mike just got 285whp on a dynojet with the innovate, 70mm pulley (10psi), and no other exhaust/power mods from what I understand. e85 gas. Intercooler sounds necessary for those with bad gas however, and that isn't out yet... Not to mention CARB is still "pending"

But remember you need innovate's tune for CARB, not a tuner kit

olorin · 09-03-2013, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Naikon210

Are there any turbo kits that will pass smog? Been looking around for hours. Still no luck. How about in the future?

The main cat is located in the header and all the kits so far replace the header. Adding a main cat after would be expensive and would decrease performance. A high flow cat is not going to be enough to pass emissions.

Sportsguy83 · 09-03-2013, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by olorin

The main cat is located in the header and all the kits so far replace the header. Adding a main cat after would be expensive and would decrease performance. A high flow cat is not going to be enough to pass emissions.

Not true. Accelerated performance version 1 kept stock header as does Ptuning.

86_ZN6 · 09-03-2013, 09:40 PM

my turbo kit (stage 0 as we call it) also keeps stock headers, stock intake box and has a recirc Bov

and yes it will undergo CARB certification

note: picture above is still a prototype

Gen · 09-03-2013, 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by olorin

The main cat is located in the header and all the kits so far replace the header. Adding a main cat after would be expensive and would decrease performance. A high flow cat is not going to be enough to pass emissions.

Adding a main cat after would still violate CARB. Gotta keep the stock cats...even if the cat you are replacing it with is lower emissions. It's a stupid state.

DarthThinmints · 09-04-2013, 03:21 AM

I would assume greddy would be, since they are located in Irvine, but, then again... I am a novice anyways.

86_ZN6 · 09-04-2013, 03:22 AM

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Originally Posted by DarthThinmints

I would assume greddy would be, since they are located in Irvine, but, then again... I am a novice anyways.

greddy eliminates headers and stock intake box. right there you know they cant be CARB

clayrush · 09-04-2013, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by DarthThinmints

I would assume greddy would be, since they are located in Irvine, but, then again... I am a novice anyways.

Very very few greddy kits even undergo testing let alone get approved.

mav1178 · 09-04-2013, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Gen

Adding a main cat after would still violate CARB. Gotta keep the stock cats...even if the cat you are replacing it with is lower emissions. It's a stupid state.

Stupid is subjective, but the requirements are actually pretty simple.

http://www.arb.ca.gov/msprog/aftermk...es/amquery.php

You are granted an EO number if you have a kit that is tested by the ARB to show it does not increase vehicle emissions.

There's two ways of doing this:
- keeping stock cat (but the tune still needs to keep factory emissions levels)
- using approved aftermarket cat as part of complete system upgrade

-alex

Cessblood · 09-04-2013, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by 86_ZN6

greddy eliminates headers and stock intake box. right there you know they cant be CARB

You can get the Greddy kit with an aftermarket cat but I don't know the emissions levels.

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Sonolin Banned Join Date: Sep 2012 Drives: 2013 Scion FR-S Location: SoCal Posts: 885 Thanks: 1,489 Thanked 289 Times in 176 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	From what I understand, its a little difficult to make a carb legal turbo for this car due to the 2 catalytic converters and low space. I've also heard of other kits "frying" cats (but that was at about 400whp if I remember correctly...). I've heard 1 vendor who mentioned they were working on a CARB legal kit, but haven't heard much in details yet. I wouldn't bet on something like this coming out for quite a while (if it even happens). EDIT: Depending on your power levels and gas quality, the Innovate kit is looking very good. @moto-mike just got 285whp on a dynojet with the innovate, 70mm pulley (10psi), and no other exhaust/power mods from what I understand. e85 gas. Intercooler sounds necessary for those with bad gas however, and that isn't out yet... Not to mention CARB is still "pending"

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