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Old 11-28-2020, 11:22 AM   #15
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swapped to the bmw mtf-2 75w-80.



i don't have to wait on the transmission oil to heat up to use 2nd. in a word...HUGE improvement in drive-ability, runs quieter and less syncro rattle.
Do you have part number and price, by any chance?
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you might find it under febi or motul in the uk. pentosin is hard to find in the usa.
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you might find it under febi or motul in the uk. pentosin is hard to find in the usa.
There's a BMW dealership not even 2 miles from my house. I'll check out pricing this week. So far I've had OEM fill, Toyota LV 75W, Amsoil 75W-90, and currently Redline MT-90, and I can't say I've been super impressed with any of them. I've been contemplating just using a good synthetic10W-30 engine oil like I've been using in my Jeep transmission for the past 200K miles.. I'll certainly give the BMW oil a try though, assuming it's not 50 bucks/qt...
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the part number comes up on parts geek cheap.
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When I first got my car, even with only 12K miles on it, I replaced all of the drive train and engine fluids. I know, way too early, but the difference in shifting because obviously better after using Motul. I'm also very particular about my vehicle maintenance. I do have to agree that this transmission is very notchy and grindy, 1st, 2nd, and even 5th sometimes. After replacing said fluids, I also got a rear shift bushing from Perrin that made things a lot better. It's relatively cheap, and super easy to install.
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I flushed my transmission fluid with less than 3000mi on the clock with Ford Motorcraft MTF (75W90) and my transmission feels better overall.

In the cold, 1st and 2nd gear is much more usable now and is considerably less notchy. When warmed up, the feel is a bit better than stock for all gears.

I'm not sure if these changes are due to better fluid or just fresh fluid but I plan on trying Motul Gear 300 for my next fluid change.
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Im tellin you, its been dropping below freezing recently and my Pentosin MTF2 behaves like a warm transmission right away, ice cold. There is no "well, its a little better." Its smooth shifting right away, all day. No notchy, no clunk-clunk-click into second, no hard pulling or pushing up or down. It just works.
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Im tellin you, its been dropping below freezing recently and my Pentosin MTF2 behaves like a warm transmission right away, ice cold. There is no "well, its a little better." Its smooth shifting right away, all day. No notchy, no clunk-clunk-click into second, no hard pulling or pushing up or down. It just works.
How about when it's hot?
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How about when it's hot?
I lived in Florida for a year with the car. Same thing. Super smooth, no noises or behaviors that ever worried me.
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I experienced poor shifting as parts started wearing out on my car. Things became noticeably worn out and are pretty easy to identify. Throwing new parts at it provided immediate results.

The clutch throw-out bearing is one of the first things I'd change out, if it hasn't already. I'm on my third throw-out bearing at 130,000 miles. I was getting grinds going into gear, shh-shh and tapping or vibration noises - all from this bearing. Here's a sound clip of my engine from over a year ago exhibiting noticeable tapping sounds before I took my car into the dealership for the engine / spring recall and had a new clutch throw-out bearing put in: https://voca.ro/1iC9k45HPQoS

The other part I think wears too much is the transmission mount. It is too soft, and after lots of miles and hard driving it gets sloppy, and the transmission / drivetrain bangs around and makes 1st-2nd gear shifts HELL. Either get a new transmission mount, or get a Whiteline "positive shift kit" which will reduce this movement. Huge improvement in shift-feel.

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Where can you order Pentosin MTF-2? I saw FRSport.com has it. Amazon doesnt have it.

Where else?
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Where can you order Pentosin MTF-2? I saw FRSport.com has it. Amazon doesnt have it.

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NOT FRSport.com!! Mine came from Ebay. Maybe a parts store, youll have to dig around. Or go straight to BMW or Hyundai. Theyll more than likely have to order it. Hyundai uses it for the Manual Genesis I believe. Look it up.
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I notice a difference shifting with gloves versus bare hand in the winter. There is definitely a feel and directness you can use to ensure it goes into gear more smoothly on those first few shifts.
I guess over the 3 years of driving i got a feel for how to shift the car cold.

Just this morning with gloves on I was having 1-2 shift problems. Took the glove off and was able to navigate the next shift fine. Any hesitation or sloppyness in the shift and it doesn't want to slide easily into gear.
To be fair I was using fingerless gloves and it makes holding the shift knob more awkward.
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Im seeing more and more MTF2 sourcing issues. And BMW is saying to replace it with a DCT fluid (FFL-4), and some say the MTF-LT-2 is the new MTF2.

Upon digging and researching, which I love to do, I found this on Bimmerworld. A trusted source, and probably the best BMW people to find an MTF2 solution.

Redline MT-LV.
https://www.bimmerworld.com/Fluids/D...TLV-Quart.html
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