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06-20-2012, 08:57 PM | #15 |
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I'm new to this from the BMW world. Are these cars just have that much chassis flex? Other than the factory subframe brace and strut bars that were fully welded or allowed for pre-tensioning, not a lot of people even bothered with this kind of stuff. Does $1000 in chassis braces have the same impact as $1000 in shocks?
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Depends if you like red or blue better.
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if you really are about go and not show, there are dozens of ways to better spend your money. also, it is likely that trd did not make a rear strut brace because the frs does not have rear struts
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And the car may not have rear struts, but that doesn't stop Cusco from offering, quote, "Rear Strut Tower Bar." I'm sure you knew what was being referred to, but it's easier to be snarky on the internet than to weigh in with anything useful. Edit: side note here: why do people consider chassis bracing for this car "show"? You can't even SEE most of this stuff once it's installed. Hell, both TRD and Cusco had to take the whole rear of the car apart just to give a glimpse as to how the bumper brace is installed. Do you guys really think I'm buying these so I can pull into a PepBoys parking lot, pop the hood, and give all the fanbois wood? |
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i dont know about you but i think offering a strut bar where there are no struts seems like it cant be for anything other than show. why dont you just the objectives that each part accomplishes? what are you trying to accomplish with these parts? id be surprised if they made you any faster and will likely just bump you into a crazy racing class. what kind of advice are you expecting on two products that havent both been owned by a single person on this forum and more importantly provide no data or testing on the products? but ill go away...good luck on your endeavor Last edited by fatoni; 06-21-2012 at 01:58 AM. |
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Loads are still being fed into shock towers regardless of suspension design. That being said, the whole purpose of reducing chassis flex is about precision of the suspension. I don't think it will be worth significant gains until after sticky tires and other mods. But if precision is the priority I think bushings would be a better starting point.
So until you have a lot of complimentary mods, just pick the colour you like better, or name you like saying better.
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As for asking for advice on products on this forum... yes, I can name at least one person who has experience with the Cusco braces on this exact car. And this may come as a surprise to you, but... CUSCO AND TRD MAKE PRODUCTS FOR OTHER CARS TOO!!! <gasp!> Shocking, right? See, my message was aimed at those out there who've had Cusco Powerbraces on their RX-7's and WRX's, and TRD Member Braces on their Supras and MR2's. If one person says, "Yeah, I had the TRD on my Celica, and it was solid!" and another says, "Meh, the Cusco stuff on my STi was warped after a year"... then I can use my brain-meats, and figure out that this might... might... be indicative of future results on the FR-S. But I forgot... I'm on the internet. Worse, I'm on a car forum. My bad. |
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how stiff do you need the chassis to be? all these braces seem to me like they are a relic from car culture past. cars are built more rigid each and every year. the interior light in my corolla used to come on under heavy loads, there i can see that helping but cars now...im not trying to start an internet fight so again, good luck in your search. i hope you get what you are looking for |
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lol for someone "not trying to start an internet fight" you came on pretty heavy with the haterade for a while there. @OP, why don't you ask moto directly? he has cusco parts installed on his FRS and i'm sure he's had experience with TRD parts on his AE86.
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Also remember. Most of the cusco parts are Not designed ground up from the specific car, they are usually part designed on different car made to fit on specific cars. So as far as R&D, i would say trd has more time on
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You are 100% absolutely wrong. ALL Cusco products are developed chassis specific. TRD doesn't have a real advantage 'cause they couldn't produce an "aftermarket" product until the platform is finished. And TRD also shares their specs and data to Cusco, and Cusco actually do R&D with products with more "stress tolerance" for racing.
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Seriously, cusco parts are mainly for show, just look at their cage, chassis/bumper braces, and etc. if you still believe that cusco parts are made for full on racing, i got nothing more to say
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