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Old 04-09-2013, 12:12 AM   #1
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gt 86 worth 40k!!!???

hi ft86 members i've been following this forum since the ft 86 was announced ( yes the prototype) Now lets get back to the topic lets say i live in a developing country and theres no scion dealership so i have toyota, and they charge 40k (41,450 to be exactly) for the gt 86 and was looking for alternatives to the gt 86 due to its high price (compared to the si) and the only "sporty" car that i can find is the civic si which is 27-28 (thats the price for 2012 when i asked last year don't know about the 2013 but should be less than 30k) and more thing i can't test drive them because they are "special order" i can ask my friend that has a 2012 to test it but he is not here, but i cannot say the same about the 86 because lets say i think theres only 1 in the whole country, so i want to know opinions about if the 86 is worth the 10-12k over the si??
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Old 04-09-2013, 12:30 AM   #2
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are we talking about united states standard dollar?
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Old 04-09-2013, 01:03 AM   #3
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Im struggling with the same problem here.
The starting price here is 46k (in USD) and it takes the fun out of it.

The "problem" is that I went to a trackday with Toyota Sweden, with five GT86´s and ran the autocross for the whole day. So now I KNOW i have to have one

How´s the price range for a used one in your country?


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Old 04-09-2013, 01:09 AM   #4
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Im struggling with the same problem here.
The starting price here is 46k (in USD) and it takes the fun out of it.

The "problem" is that I went to a trackday with Toyota Sweden, with five GT86´s and ran the autocross for the whole day. So now I KNOW i have to have one

How´s the price range for a used one in your country?


PS. Sorry for the bad English!
Your English is better than many people I know, and that's their first language! The cheapest I've seen for a used one was $22k, and that was with 5000 miles on it through eBay. It seems like this is an issue with the pricing in a number of countries. Makes me feel very fortunate to be able to have such a great car at such a relatively affordable price.
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Old 04-09-2013, 01:46 AM   #5
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in one of south east asian countries, on the road price is around USD 70K due to high taxes. Yet all sold out.
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Old 04-09-2013, 01:49 AM   #6
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yes its USD ( i just read my own post i feel bad for my grammar)
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so i want to know opinions about if the 86 is worth the 10-12k over the si??
Get the SI, those engines respond very good to simple bolton mods than the boxer engine ever could(for now), and they do handle pretty good for FF(but not as good as FR of course). But since you are already spending 28k, you might as well fork that extra 12k on the Toyota.

In the end, it all comes down to which car looks better to you? I would choose the Toyota if I were you(granted the extra 12k wont break you down financially).

Is it worth it? Hell yeah it is!

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If you want one priced similarly to the FR-S you're going to have to get the lower spec model (86 or G depending on country).
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Get the SI, those engines respond very good to simple bolton mods than the boxer engine ever could(for now), and they do handle pretty good for FF(but not as good as FR of course). But since you are already spending 28k, you might as well fork that extra 12k on the Toyota.

In the end, it all comes down to which car looks better to you? I would choose the Toyota if I were you(granted the extra 12k wont break you down financially).

Is it worth it? Hell yeah it is!

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OP, Choose 1. FWD or RWD then you will have your answer.
Personally, I will never choose the Si over gt86
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There's no point in quoting the price of a vehicle in another country's currency due to rpi/cpi.
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in one of south east asian countries, on the road price is around USD 70K due to high taxes. Yet all sold out.
Close to $160k in Singapore. Nearly $90k in Denmark, $75k in Norway...

For those who are not thankful big time to Uncle Sam for super low car prices in the US:

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12802
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Imo this car is worth it for its driving fun. Lets say it costs 50k for one. If I dont track, probably not worth it, but since I do track it is worth the 50k to me. Why? Because since I track, track > comfort features. If I dont track then a car with comfort features > track. But everyone has their own ways to evaluate the "value" of a car. I paid over msrp for mine by over 3000 and it was worth it for me even though if I waited it could of been cheaper but because I track mine and imo it's track worth is more than msrp + 3k.

I just reread my response and wow... I need to get some sleep...
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I've payed about 46000$ for my GT86 and not regreting one single $. The Scion may be cheaper, however the GT86 has more "fancy" stuff. Does the fancy stuff justify for the higher price? -> no
Still alot of car for the price. But yes, you have to be a petrolhead to spend this money on the GT86, as you could get easy some Sedans and even a BMW 3series or Mercs (however low end) for the same money
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Close to $160k in Singapore. Nearly $90k in Denmark, $75k in Norway...

For those who are not thankful big time to Uncle Sam for super low car prices in the US:

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12802
here's the pricelist in Singapore

http://www.sgcarmart.com/new_cars/ne...?CarCode=11167

SGD$1 = USD$0.81
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