Seat belt lock up almost got me killed today

[Packofcrows]

Are you fat? (lol joke. I am) It does it to me if it clicks all the way when buckling up...

Make sure its not stuck on door too. Get a boob/chest cushion, it'll give you little bit of play.

[cycleboy]

Originally Posted by mav1178

While I would normally agree, most interstates in CA aren't designed this way.

One exception may be the 110 north of the I-5, which isn't technically an interstate:

Even the 110 (onramps are essentially a stop sign + a drag race up to 55MPH) isn't THAT bad for purposes of blind spot discussions.

Very curious to what section of road OP was on...

-alex

For those unaccustomed to it, we SoCal people put "the" in front of our highway/freeway numbers. . .

[MikeM7]

Originally Posted by extrashaky

The diagram is to show what you can see and what you can't, not to assume that there's always a car conveniently located in the next lane to keep you from moving over. If you take the diagram in the context of this thread, it might make more sense.

There are three situations in which this comes into play for me:

When I'm in the right lane on a three-lane freeway and want to take the center lane. Sometimes there will be someone pacing me in the far left lane in the blind spot. If that person tries to take the center lane at the same time I do, a collision could result.

When I'm on an entrance ramp, attempting to merge into traffic. Because the ramp doesn't begin right next to the travel lane, someone in the travel lane could be in the blind spot and suddenly appear in my properly-adjusted mirrors when I'm right alongside him. At that point my options are more limited than if I had seen him before reaching that point in the acceleration lane.

When I'm in the far left travel lane and someone is approaching in an entrance ramp from the left. We have those here, and people tend to just blow right out into traffic without looking. It's bad enough to have them suddenly appear out of the blind spot into my properly-adjusted mirrors, but it's worse when they just blast into my lane with no regard for life or property.

All of these situations require looking over the shoulder rather than relying on properly-adjusted mirrors that still leave a huge fucking cone of blindness out the driver's side of the vehicle. Does that explanation work for you?

I guess, I'm just kind of surprised anyone needs a diagram to let them know they shouldn't rely on their side mirror to view traffic that's diagonally backwards and two lanes to the side. Seems like kind of a given.

You can see the lane right next to you just fine, and that's all the side mirror is for.

I also think it's a little funny that the blind and visible cones overlap each other to create a paradoxical blind/visible triangle

Edit: After re-reading and paying close attention to context, the post you responded to said "This car's side mirrors, if adjusted properly, should not require you to turn to see blind spots to the point where the seatbelt lockup comes into play."

Looking at your diagram, I'd agree, you shouldn't need to turn your shoulders to view that blind spot, just your head.

I did pick up on the whole merging onto highway at a distance from travel lane part, which would potentially put the cars he's merging with in that blind spot, so I get your point there.

[mav1178]

Originally Posted by extrashaky

But there is STILL a blind spot in this car, even with properly-adjusted mirrors, that in many circumstances requires looking over the left shoulder to ensure that the way is clear. The better habit is to always look, so that you don't bang into someone the one time you're wrong about whether the mirrors alone were sufficient.

I always look, but the whole thing about moving your entire body is completely unnecessary.

-alex

[8R6]

with properly adjusted side mirrors, a quick GLANCE is all that's needed to double check that nobody is in the "blind spot" or someone approaching really quickly. if you have to shift your whole body like batman or an owl just to look to the side of you, you're doing it wrong.

[chulooz]

Sounds like your improper use of mirrors almost got someone else killed.

[kch]

http://www.ft86speedfactory.com/rexp...rrors-852.html

these help a lot.

[spatcha88]

Originally Posted by chulooz

Sounds like your improper use of mirrors almost got someone else killed.

Bro I've been driving for 8 years and have never had a single accident or minor colision. I use my mirrors but due to my heights and I can't 100 % rely on them. Hence why I always look over my shoulder and check my mirrors.

[ck-GT86]

Originally Posted by kch

http://www.ft86speedfactory.com/rexp...rrors-852.html

these help a lot.

+1 to the convex mirrors.

.ck

[stugray]

Originally Posted by spatcha88

Bro I've been driving for 8 years and have never had a single accident or minor colision. I use my mirrors but due to my heights and I can't 100 % rely on them. Hence why I always look over my shoulder and check my mirrors.

I have >30 years driving experience (not that that matters in this discussion) and I also look over my shoulder when required.
Which is not that often because I have one convex mirror on the driver's side.
Even when I DO look, I never have to turn my entire torso.

Maybe you need to work on neck flexibility.
Or are you this guy:

[spatcha88]

Originally Posted by stugray

I have >30 years driving experience (not that that matters in this discussion) and I also look over my shoulder when required.
Which is not that often because I have one convex mirror on the driver's side.
Even when I DO look, I never have to turn my entire torso.

Maybe you need to work on neck flexibility.
Or are you this guy:

Where did you find this pic of me...

[RobertPaulson]

Originally Posted by humfrz

Well, my take on driving these days, is sort of like playing a game ...... with one player looking at his/her smart phone, texting; another player talking on a cell phone; another player is drunk/on drugs; another one is old and gets the gas & brake mixed up; yet another is young and bullet proof and the last one is asleep ..... and there you are ..... in the middle of them all ...... your move .....


humfrz

sorry for being the young bullet proof one that drunk/ondrugs while sexting confused about what that third pedal is all while punching babies.

[2much]

Originally Posted by spatcha88

Bro I've been driving for 8 years and have never had a single accident or minor colision. I use my mirrors but due to my heights and I can't 100 % rely on them. Hence why I always look over my shoulder and check my mirrors.

I am not sure why some people are trying to convince people that looking over your shoulder properly is bad practice

[MikeM7]

Originally Posted by 2much

I am not sure why some people are trying to convince people that looking over your shoulder properly is bad practice

Not bad practice, just not necessary when you can view the entire blind spot by turning your neck.