New ICE Vehicles Banned in California by 2035

[NoHaveMSG]

Originally Posted by Irace86.2.0

Apple does more for updating older models of phones and providing new features too, which is similar to Tesla. The charging network and the charging experience being a huge part of that integration.

My parents still can't use 3rd party chargers, 19' model 3.

[Dadhawk]

Originally Posted by Irace86.2.0

The front packaging on the LYRIQ could have been better. I don't buy the engineers that they wanted to optimize the back.,,,

The Chinese version has a front trunk, but it's only about the size that could hold the charger case. When you cram the 19.2 charging unit and a second motor under the front, there really isn't much room. Could they have opitimized some more, probably, but the electronics have got to go somewhere. For me, it's not a deal breaker.

It isn't activated yet, but the LYRIQ has the hardware for the equivalent of Sentry mode, including the slot for the SD storage in the trunk.

Having access to the Tesla charging network next year will be nice. There are videos already of LYRIQs charging at the magic dock Tesla chargers in NY.

No vehicle, of course, is perfect for everyone.

[Irace86.2.0]

Originally Posted by NoHaveMSG

My parents still can't use 3rd party chargers, 19' model 3.

I can't speak to your parent's particular situation or car. Assuming the firmware/software is updated, the car should provide available fast chargers on 3rd party networks, assuming they meet the standards Tesla has set. It may be the case that the 3rd party chargers in their area or that they are going to doesn't meet their high standards.

https://www.tesla.com/support/improv...-fast-charging

Improving Access to Third-Party Fast Charging

Third-party fast chargers that meet our performance and reliability standards will be added to Tesla’s navigation automatically as Qualified Third-Party Chargers. The intent is to ensure a smooth charging experience for Tesla drivers. When drivers navigate to a Qualified Third-Party Charger, the battery automatically preconditions to arrive with an optimal temperature, reducing the amount of time it takes to charge. The following standards will first roll out across Europe and Israel.

Qualified Charging Station Requirements

For a charging station to be included in Tesla’s navigation system, it must meet these conditions over a 60-day period:

1. At least one compatible charging connector
2. Frequently used by Tesla drivers at least once every four days
3. Average charge success rate is 90% or higher

To detect inoperable chargers quickly and provide the best experience for our customers, stations will be removed from Tesla’s navigation system if any of the following conditions are met over a 14-day period:

1. No charge sessions detected
2. Average charge success rate falls below 70%

[Dadhawk]

Originally Posted by Irace86.2.0

I can't speak to your parent's particular situation or car. Assuming the firmware/software is updated, the car should provide available fast chargers on 3rd party networks, assuming they meet the standards Tesla has set. It may be the case that the 3rd party chargers in their area or that they are going to doesn't meet their high standards.

Not sure appearing on the nav map in a Tesla and being able to use it are the same thing. @NoHaveMSG seems to be referring to the latter, and your references seem to point to the former.

There is nothing precluding a Tesla from using any 3rd party charger, otherwise it wouldn't be possible for it to appear on the map at all based on the criteria you mention.

@NoHaveMSG seems to be saying that it doesn't work at any 3rd party charger.

[NoHaveMSG]

Originally Posted by Dadhawk

@NoHaveMSG seems to be saying that it doesn't work at any 3rd party charger.

Their home charger works, not sure what brand it is but I know it isn't a Tesla one. They have 3 Tesla superchargers 50 miles in any direction. Almost everything is 3rd party around here and most don't work even though other Tesla's charge there no problem. Been through all the software updates and probably around $1k in different charge adapters.

Something about they need a part updated on the car for the charger to work, the Tesla service center won't let them order it and schedule an appointment for install, they have to wait until one is in stock. I dunno, my dad is pretty flustered about it for a while now. The service center here in town is pretty new, open less than 6 months. The car works fine as is with just a home charger for the milage that they use, around 50-60 miles/day.

[Lantanafrs2]

Originally Posted by NoHaveMSG

Their home charger works, not sure what brand it is but I know it isn't a Tesla one. They have 3 Tesla superchargers 50 miles in any direction. Almost everything is 3rd party around here and most don't work even though other Tesla's charge there no problem. Been through all the software updates and probably around $1k in different charge adapters.

Something about they need a part updated on the car for the charger to work, the Tesla service center won't let them order it and schedule an appointment for install, they have to wait until one is in stock. I dunno, my dad is pretty flustered about it for a while now. The service center here in town is pretty new, open less than 6 months. The car works fine as is with just a home charger for the milage that they use, around 50-60 miles/day.

You opened a can of worms

[NoHaveMSG]

Originally Posted by Lantanafrs2

You opened a can of worms

It's just one anecdotal point. My dad still loves the car even though it is mostly mom mom's. She would still be driving a 05' Elantra if she had a choice.

[Lantanafrs2]

I see many teslas in west palm beach. Older conservatives who don't like evs still purchase teslas. They're looked at as luxury items and on the island anything with a big 3 emblem is inappropriate.

[Irace86.2.0]

Originally Posted by Dadhawk

Not sure appearing on the nav map in a Tesla and being able to use it are the same thing. @NoHaveMSG seems to be referring to the latter, and your references seem to point to the former.

There is nothing precluding a Tesla from using any 3rd party charger, otherwise it wouldn't be possible for it to appear on the map at all based on the criteria you mention.

@NoHaveMSG seems to be saying that it doesn't work at any 3rd party charger.

Yeah that makes sense. I was thinking the firmware/software locked out the car from pairing with a fast charger, but I guess you are right that it is just from the navigation.

[Irace86.2.0]

Originally Posted by NoHaveMSG

Their home charger works, not sure what brand it is but I know it isn't a Tesla one. They have 3 Tesla superchargers 50 miles in any direction. Almost everything is 3rd party around here and most don't work even though other Tesla's charge there no problem. Been through all the software updates and probably around $1k in different charge adapters.

Something about they need a part updated on the car for the charger to work, the Tesla service center won't let them order it and schedule an appointment for install, they have to wait until one is in stock. I dunno, my dad is pretty flustered about it for a while now. The service center here in town is pretty new, open less than 6 months. The car works fine as is with just a home charger for the milage that they use, around 50-60 miles/day.

Sounds specific to their car. Bummer.

https://electrek.co/2019/07/09/tesla...ging-networks/

[Dadhawk]

Originally Posted by Lantanafrs2

I see many teslas in west palm beach. Older conservatives who don't like evs still purchase teslas. They're looked at as luxury items and on the island anything with a big 3 emblem is inappropriate.

I used to live in W. Palm Beach, and had acquaintances on Palm Beach. My guess is they thought they were buying a "luxury golf cart" and didn't realize it was an actual car.

[WolfpackS2k]

That's what it felt like when I drove one lol

[Irace86.2.0]

Ultimately, it should feel like a better golf cart just like a car is a better lawn mower.

Surprisingly, the best part of the driving experience is the instantaneous torque, linear/predictable torque curve and not having a middle man (transmission) to dilute and interfere with the process. I've never felt more directly linked to the engine and to the throttle than in an EV. NA manual is next. NA PDK is next, FI manual, and it just goes downhill fast from there.

[WolfpackS2k]

I liked the steering of the Model Y. Yes the instantaneous torque was nice, but it was so easy (and lacking fanfare) that it also got boring in a hurry. My opinion of course.