Did we get the BHP spec already?

[ft86cbx]

Can anyone remember if the BHP was confirmed or not what with all the rumours and misinformation?

I just read confirmation it was 200BHP and couldn't remember actually having this confirmed before. Im sure it probably was, but as I say what with everything swirling round I probably just forgot.

[Type[R]+]

It'll be crank hp.

[chaoskaze]

Nope, it's all speculation.

200 is just a more likely number, 2zz already makes around 180, Latest EJ204 over by the other side of the pond with AVCS makes 190.


Personally I hope for 220, lol I will keep dreaming before the offical spec is released.

[ft86cbx]

"Let us introduce a new generation of sports car. A font engine, rear wheel drive concept that combines a lightweight coupe body with a 200bhp flat-four boxer engine"

*Admittedly this is discussing the concept.

[Type[R]+]

'british' bhp and hp essentially same thing?

[Type[R]+]

brake hp = hp at the crank....

[ryude]

I'm much more interested in the torque. Anyone know how much torque it makes and what rpm?

[SUB-FT86]

Originally Posted by ryude

I'm much more interested in the torque. Anyone know how much torque it makes and what rpm?

I bet it will be 140-something @ 4500-5200 rpms.

[ryude]

Damn, I was really hoping for 150+ since the k20a already makes 140 and it is 10 years old with no DI.

K20A2

• Found in:
  • 2002-2004 RSX Type-S (USDM)
  • 2002-2004 Honda Integra Type R (Australia)
  • 2002-2005 Honda Civic Type R (EP3, European)
    • Displacement: 1,998 cc (121.9 cu in)
    • Compression: 11.7:1
    • Power: 200 hp @ 8500 rpm
    • Torque: 142 ft·lbf (246N·m) @ 7500 rpm
    • Rev limit: 8700 rpm (USDM RSX-S, U.K Civic-R )
    • Redline: 8100 rpm
    • i-VTEC engagement: 6000 rpm

Maybe Honda is just better at making performance engines :/

[SUB-FT86]

I wouldnt say Honda is better at making performance engines. Look at that torque, it looks like shit. 142 lb ft @ 7500 rpms?. That is fucking garbage of a engine. Maybe if that engine was strapped to 1800 lbs of curb weight I would respect it.

[Type[R]+]

Originally Posted by ryude

Maybe Honda is just better at making performance engines :/

I don't think it's a matter of being better as such, it's a matter of what they release to the market. But yes, in terms of engine tech and know how, Honda > Subaru any day of the week.

The K20A is a beast of an engine, and very easy to get more power out of it. Toyota is essentially stuck with the FB, but I'm sure they'll do a great job with Yamaha getting it up to scratch.

[ryude]

K20A can get get 250whp N/A with just bolt ons, and it makes a flatttt torque curve. I swapped a k20a2 into my EP3 hatchback.



This is at the wheels.

[Type[R]+]

Originally Posted by SUB-FT86

I wouldnt say Honda is better at making performance engines. Look at that torque, it looks like shit. 142 lb ft @ 7500 rpms?. That is fucking garbage of a engine. Maybe if that engine was strapped to 1800 lbs of curb weight I would respect it.

Our current Aussie Type R's K20 makes 148kW of power at 7800 rpm, and 193Nm of torque at 5600 rpm. Not bad at all for NA power!

[SUB-FT86]

That is only a 182 whp / 125 wtq. And it looks like it gain 20 whp/5 wtq? Where is this 250 whp dyno n/a?