Ramps vs Jack stands - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

holeeray · 11-05-2020, 08:13 PM

I'm planning on installing a few bushings soon and was wondering whether ramps are fine or whether I should throw it up on jack stands. Reason I ask is some installs require the suspension to be unloaded while others it doesn't make a difference.

Bushings I plan to install:

Whiteline Transmission Mount Insert
Whiteline Subframe Inserts
Perrin Rear Shift Bushing

Ohio Enthusiast · 11-05-2020, 08:16 PM

I've done all of these on jack stands.
As far as I know, you can't do the rear subframe inserts on ramps as that would load the subframe, not allowing it to drop to give clearance to put the top inserts in.

Spuds · 11-05-2020, 08:21 PM

100% jack stands.

DarkPira7e · 11-05-2020, 08:27 PM

Ramps are good for looking. Jackstands are good for doing

soundman98 · 11-05-2020, 09:28 PM

i've had ramps shift too many times while loading/unloading. way too many close calls and additional bumper scratches for no reason.

i always do maintenance on jack stands. even oil changes. they're more solid, and easier to place safely.

Dave-ROR · 11-06-2020, 08:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soundman98

i've had ramps shift too many times while loading/unloading. way too many close calls and additional bumper scratches for no reason.

i always do maintenance on jack stands. even oil changes. they're more solid, and easier to place safely.

Old school ramps, like early 90s rhino ramps, are great. Modern ones suck.

soundman98 · 11-06-2020, 07:44 PM

i've had 2 old sets of steel 1970-1980 vintage Sears brand ramps. i've had both sets randomly shift while driving up/down them.

and then i end up dragging the jack out anyways to get it off the one ramp that is now twisting the frame and tweaking the bumper. figure i might as well cut out the middle man and just use the jack from the beginning.

Summerwolf · 11-06-2020, 07:50 PM

The low profile, long race ramps are great. Anything else, nah. I've had issues with anything else I've tried except on a heavy truck or something.

gtpvette · 11-07-2020, 11:37 AM

I use these cribs from race ramp. When not working on suspension they are great!!

Decep · 11-10-2020, 10:58 PM

if you use those ramps inspect the shit out of them before every use. i've seen those rhino ramps crack now and then.

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holeeray Member Join Date: Oct 2020 Drives: 2015 BRZ Limited Location: NJ Posts: 51 Thanks: 48 Thanked 8 Times in 6 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Ramps vs Jack stands I'm planning on installing a few bushings soon and was wondering whether ramps are fine or whether I should throw it up on jack stands. Reason I ask is some installs require the suspension to be unloaded while others it doesn't make a difference. Bushings I plan to install: Whiteline Transmission Mount Insert Whiteline Subframe Inserts Perrin Rear Shift Bushing __________________ Bone stock

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soundman98 ProCrastinationConsultant Join Date: Sep 2013 Drives: '14 Ranger, '18 Tacoma 4Dr LB Location: chicago-ish Posts: 11,330 Thanks: 35,240 Thanked 13,673 Times in 6,781 Posts Mentioned: 98 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	i've had 2 old sets of steel 1970-1980 vintage Sears brand ramps. i've had both sets randomly shift while driving up/down them. and then i end up dragging the jack out anyways to get it off the one ramp that is now twisting the frame and tweaking the bumper. figure i might as well cut out the middle man and just use the jack from the beginning. __________________ "The time you enjoy wasting is not wasted time"

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Decep Senior Member Join Date: May 2017 Drives: 2013 FR-S Series 10 Location: CA Posts: 1,073 Thanks: 172 Thanked 497 Times in 326 Posts Mentioned: 6 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	if you use those ramps inspect the shit out of them before every use. i've seen those rhino ramps crack now and then. __________________ 2013 FR-S 10 Series ~75k (SOLD) RCE SS-1 Coilovers Corsa Catback Edelbrock Supercharger installed @ 50k

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Ohio Enthusiast Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2020 Drives: 2018 BRZ Location: Dayton, OH Posts: 898 Thanks: 1,366 Thanked 763 Times in 432 Posts Mentioned: 12 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I've done all of these on jack stands. As far as I know, you can't do the rear subframe inserts on ramps as that would load the subframe, not allowing it to drop to give clearance to put the top inserts in.

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