DF Aero Kit (Fenders and rear wing)

[FLIPs_FR-S]

@JoeyKaotyk I couldn't have said it better myself.

[BadBRZ]

Someone needs to rip off this design and sell it as it appears the original designer is not able to do so

[projectXTR]

Originally Posted by BadBRZ

Someone needs to rip off this design and sell it as it appears the original designer is not able to do so

To do stuff like that in Europe demands a bucketload of €€€ and not every company has that amount of cash on demand.

Patience is a gift my man

[FLIPs_FR-S]

@DF-Aero should I post up the new progress or are you going to handle that?

[BRZPDX]

If this is manufactured over seas, shipping by sea takes bout 4 months so if they were to start manufacturing in October, we should see this spoiler in the states around Feb, 2015.

[BadBRZ]

progress would be nice, he's had a working proto-type for like 4 months now ... i don't understand why we haven't heard anything

[dem00n]

Things take time, hell most of the good parts for an S13 are coming out right now...

[FLIPs_FR-S]

They have a fiberglass prototype now. Photos on their Facebook page. SEIDOWORKS

[BadBRZ]

so how long do they have to drive around with it before we can buy 1

[FLIPs_FR-S]

They still have to tweak a few mor things. Their next prototype should be "perfect"

[Sithspawn]

tl;dr manufacturing is a tough gig. This product is worth waiting for.

R&D takes much longer than people think. Hell, I drove around with my pre-production prototypes for about 4 months before I finally was able to dial in the manufacturing process to actually produce them.

Fiberglass is a PITA to get just right: temperature, humidity and mixture ratios in the resin play a huge role in how consistent the parts come out. Those three factors dictate how much it shrinks, how quickly it cures and how stiff the final part is. People expect a fiberglass part to fit perfectly every time and throw a fit if it is even the slightest bit off. It takes a lot of trial and error to figure out what temperature, humidity level and mixture ratio will produce the correct geometry. Then, you have to ensure that those variables are 100% in your control in the production setting to get that same quality every single time. That is a big PITA in of itself and requires a huge investment in air quality control throughout the year to keep all those variables in check. For example a part made in summer may be more warped than a part made in winter if you don't have climate control inside the facility. Furthermore, a mixture ratio that works in summer may not cure well enough in the winter.

For a small company just starting out with a new part, it is a steep learning curve and regardless of whether or not your design is solid, getting it manufactured is a whole different animal...especially when dealing with an exothermic polymerization reaction. Even if a small company decides to sub contract out the actual production, it takes a small fortune to get that going and you still have to work with the contractor to ensure that the quality is up to your standards. Also, considering that you aren't the subcontractor's only customer, you are somewhat at their mercy and the demands of their long term customers as to how quickly your project gets done. If you are too demanding, the initial quantity is low, and this is the first time you are working with them, they might just throw your project on the back burner and give you the dog and pony show until they feel like working on it again. Sometimes you get lucky and your supplier is looking to establish another long term customer and other times, they just want to make a quick buck between big jobs with their bigger customers. You just never know.

As for the people suggesting that someone rip off their design. Go drop $10k-100k on R&D and see how you feel when someone else rips off your blood, sweat, tears, and hard earned money that you've invested in something you are passionate about. I know, its too much to ask for someone to feel empathy for anyone else these days.

For me, this particular wing is by far the most gorgeous piece of art I've seen come out for this platform and I am happy to wait as long as it takes for it to be released and will be proud to rock it on my ride because I know what it takes to get something like this off the ground. Go Seidoworks!

[BadBRZ]

Another 3 months of waiting?!?

[DF-Aero]

Hi all.

Its sad to see some talking down on this. First of being a one man company with no funding what so ever and having both a fulltime jobb on side and have minimum time next to work to do this and in the way i am is taking time. If i were to have pockets full of money this would have been made alooong time ago. But when i have to pay for everything out of my own pocket it takes time.

And some places i need to wait for other companies to do there thing it takes time. At this moment its about done and the first 3 fibreglass wings are out from the mold with minor changes to be made. And being in Sweden everything takes alot more time than in US or in china.

So even when wing is done we need to sort vendors and logistics to get these out there and that is also a big task.

Anyways here is the first prototype out og the mold but has its small flaws but final one is coming within 2 weeks we hope..

So for you all that are interested still heres some pictures.

/S

[DF-Aero]

Originally Posted by BRZPDX

If this is manufactured over seas, shipping by sea takes bout 4 months so if they were to start manufacturing in October, we should see this spoiler in the states around Feb, 2015.

we get wings over to US/NY in 2 weeks. Normal shipping time by sea is 4 weeks, Not 4 months.

And If shipped to NY harbour we can get shippments going every 2 weeks with a shipping time of 2 weeks...

/S