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Old 08-26-2014, 06:59 PM   #1
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Scion FRS - Track Dream build - under $20k - Normally aspirated

Let's say you have $20k to burn in parts for:
Total track car conversion
no forced induction.
Free labor.

For me that would look something like this:

Exterior:
seibon carbon hood: $800
seibon carbon fenders: $1600
seibon trunk: $1500

Drivetrain:
Wheels: Enkei 17x9 $1000
Tires: BFG R1 $1000
Brakes: AP Racing Endurance $1500
Brake lines braided: $200
Brake cooling: AP Racing kit : $1000

Chassis & Body:
Suspension KW ClubRacer: $3200
Adjustable Arm kit: $3000

Engine:
Perrin CAI: $200
Perrin Oil Cooler: $1000
Koyo radiator: $400
Intake plate: $200

Interior:
Seat: Momo Daytona $1000
Steering wheel: Momo endurance : $300
Sterring wheel quick disconnect: $300
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Let's say you have $20k to burn in parts for:
Total track car conversion
no forced induction.
Free labor.

For me that would look something like this:

Exterior:
seibon carbon hood: $800
seibon carbon fenders: $1600
seibon trunk: $1500

Drivetrain:
Wheels: Enkei 17x9 $1000
Tires: BFG R1 $1000
Brakes: AP Racing Endurance $1500
Brake lines braided: $200
Brake cooling: AP Racing kit : $1000

Chassis & Body:
Suspension KW ClubRacer: $3200
Adjustable Arm kit: $3000

Engine:
Perrin CAI: $200
Perrin Oil Cooler: $1000
Koyo radiator: $400
Intake plate: $200

Interior:
Seat: Momo Daytona $1000
Steering wheel: Momo endurance : $300
Sterring wheel quick disconnect: $300
That won't pass safety inspection if it was a fully dedicated track vehicle. We have a different way of spending $20k.
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That won't pass safety inspection if it was a fully dedicated track vehicle. We have a different way of spending $20k.
Good point I think I skipped the safety equipment
I wanted to get a thread started to put some cool list of parts out there.
I'll update my list along the way.
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What's the goal? I feel like the term "track car" gets thrown around a lot.

If it's a dedicated track car, I'd want the proper safety equipment eg, roll cage, etc
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Track car: car ready for racing, but mainly used for HPDE and small car racing without hope of winning. So it doesn't need the additional $20k on top to be 'competitive'.

Safety: $5500
--------
Rollcage custom build: $3000
Fire suppression system: $2500

Drivetrain: $4700
------------
Wheels: Enkei 17x9 $1000
Tires: BFG R1 $1000
Brakes: AP Racing Endurance $1500
Brake lines braided: $200
Brake cooling: AP Racing kit : $1000

Chassis & Body: $5200
------------------
Suspension KW ClubRacer: $3200
Adjustable Arm kit: $2000

Engine: $2800
---------
EcuTek tune: $1000
Perrin CAI: $200
Perrin Oil Cooler: $1000
Koyo radiator: $400
Intake plate: $200

Interior: $1600
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Seat: Momo Daytona $1000
Steering wheel: Momo endurance : $300
Sterring wheel quick disconnect: $300

Total: $19,800.
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Good point I think I skipped the safety equipment
I wanted to get a thread started to put some cool list of parts out there.
I'll update my list along the way.
If you're ready for a street car with a lot of potential, let me know. We've been helping a guy remotely in the Midwest/East coast with his setup, and I know the budget will come under $20k, yet still be extremely competitive in his group.
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Track car: car ready for racing, but mainly used for HPDE and small car racing without hope of winning. So it doesn't need the additional $20k on top to be 'competitive'.

Safety: $5500
--------
Rollcage custom build: $3000
Fire suppression system: $2500

Drivetrain: $4700
------------
Wheels: Enkei 17x9 $1000
Tires: BFG R1 $1000
Brakes: AP Racing Endurance $1500
Brake lines braided: $200
Brake cooling: AP Racing kit : $1000

Chassis & Body: $5200
------------------
Suspension KW ClubRacer: $3200
Adjustable Arm kit: $2000

Engine: $2800
---------
EcuTek tune: $1000
Perrin CAI: $200
Perrin Oil Cooler: $1000
Koyo radiator: $400
Intake plate: $200

Interior: $1600
----------
Seat: Momo Daytona $1000
Steering wheel: Momo endurance : $300
Sterring wheel quick disconnect: $300

Total: $19,800.
Like wheel 2 wheel racing? HPDE doesn't count as racing in the traditional sense.
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Old 08-26-2014, 07:57 PM   #9
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Let's say you have $20k to burn in parts for:
Total track car conversion
no forced induction.
Free labor.

For me that would look something like this:

Exterior:
seibon carbon hood: $800
seibon carbon fenders: $1600
seibon trunk: $1500

Drivetrain:
Wheels: Enkei 17x9 $1000
Tires: BFG R1 $1000
Brakes: AP Racing Endurance $1500
Brake lines braided: $200
Brake cooling: AP Racing kit : $1000

Chassis & Body:
Suspension KW ClubRacer: $3200
Adjustable Arm kit: $3000

Engine:
Perrin CAI: $200
Perrin Oil Cooler: $1000
Koyo radiator: $400
Intake plate: $200

Interior:
Seat: Momo Daytona $1000
Steering wheel: Momo endurance : $300
Sterring wheel quick disconnect: $300
Given your choices I suspect you don't have much experience in track days.

First and foremost, ditch the carbon fiber and get a full, custom roll cage, harnesses (I'd assume you already have a HANs device) and mounting of your fixed back seat. Then go with 17x8 wheels (do long wheel studs while you are at it so you can get them on and off more easily), you don't need the extra width that much when on stock power and the tires are much cheaper.

Your brakes are not the right price, $2600 is the list price for the endurance kit, but probably better to get the sprint kit ($2100) since it weighs less. I'd skip the cooling ducts unless you actually manage to need them, less chance of overcooling the rotors. And don't forget pads for the rear (figure $220) and some new brake and other fluids ($300 worth or so I think).

For the engine, I'd do the JR oil cooler (more capacity) and skip the radiator (not needed on stock power). Also don't forget a catch can and removal of cats along with a solid tune, probably for E85.

And the different steering wheel? I wouldn't bother with that. You would want some data logging though, for that price you could have it permanently installed which would be nice.

I'm not that familiar with the coilovers, but I would budget more for that; you want to keep the wheels on the ground as best you can!

If there were any budget after that, I would think about a different differential; the e-diff function gets annoying pretty quickly once you turn off the traction control and I hear it should help with that.
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I would get a shorai battery before most of those parts. And also fixed buckets both front seats. Remove rear seats and spare. And front brake kit. Saves 130lbs right there
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Given your choices I suspect you don't have much experience in track days.

First and foremost, ditch the carbon fiber and get a full, custom roll cage, harnesses (I'd assume you already have a HANs device) and mounting of your fixed back seat. Then go with 17x8 wheels (do long wheel studs while you are at it so you can get them on and off more easily), you don't need the extra width that much when on stock power and the tires are much cheaper.

Your brakes are not the right price, $2600 is the list price for the endurance kit, but probably better to get the sprint kit ($2100) since it weighs less. I'd skip the cooling ducts unless you actually manage to need them, less chance of overcooling the rotors. And don't forget pads for the rear (figure $220) and some new brake and other fluids ($300 worth or so I think).

For the engine, I'd do the JR oil cooler (more capacity) and skip the radiator (not needed on stock power). Also don't forget a catch can and removal of cats along with a solid tune, probably for E85.

And the different steering wheel? I wouldn't bother with that. You would want some data logging though, for that price you could have it permanently installed which would be nice.

I'm not that familiar with the coilovers, but I would budget more for that; you want to keep the wheels on the ground as best you can!

If there were any budget after that, I would think about a different differential; the e-diff function gets annoying pretty quickly once you turn off the traction control and I hear it should help with that.
All very good points ! Keep it coming
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Safety: $5500
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Rollcage full: $3000 [Custom build]
Fire suppression system: $2500 [?]

Drivetrain: $4300
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Wheels: 17x8 $1000 [Enkei]
Wheel Studs: $100 [ARP]
Tires: $1000 [BFG R1 225/45/17]
Brakes: $2100 [AP Racing Endurance]
Brake lines braided: $200

Chassis & Body: $5200
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Suspension KW ClubRacer: $3200
Adjustable Arm kit: $2000

Engine: $2800
---------
Exhaust header + straight pipes: $500 [which the best track header ?]
EcuTek tune: $1500
Oil Cooler: $700 [JR oil cooler]
Catch Can: $200 [Radium auto]
Radiotor: NO UPGRADE ?

Interior: $1200
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Seat + bracket: Momo Daytona $1200

Data Login:
-------------
Used Traqmate: $300

Total: $19,300.
@CSG David please chime in and post the list of parts you would add on the ideal track HPDE FRS.
My car will have a full roll cage, no need for anything street legal but anyways here we are only talking about parts that would just as well bolt on a street car, aside of the cage and fire system.

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You're not messing with the fuel system... are you? No need for fire suppression if you're not.
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For HPDE it will not be needed but I am planning to register for some local races and they ask for it.
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