2022: Is there any risk to buy an 2013 FR-S now ?

[Dadhawk]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

The only place that the recall not being done could be an issue at resale is California. Mind you it could be a total show stopper as far as selling the car there though.
The rest of the U.S. and all of Canada just don't care if the recall is done or not.

It also is an issue with just reregistering the car as an owner since it will not pass the CA safety inspection without it. That means pretty much every 2013 86 in CA has had the work done, and any that had a failure because of the work has likely been remediated or is off the road now.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Dadhawk

It also is an issue with just reregistering the car as an owner since it will not pass the CA safety inspection without it. That means pretty much every 2013 86 in CA has had the work done, and any that had a failure because of the work has likely been remediated or is off the road now.

Oh very valid point! I didn't think of the need to renew registration.
So... ya.... we have enough data to safely say that if it is going to have problems from the recall it is within 20,000 of the work being completed so most are probably good to go even there.

[NorthernDriver]

Honesty I trust Subaru/Toyota to have made a stout car/engine. I’m going to wait for prices to drop down from insanity and then look for an older stock model with maintenance history.

I’ll drop in a oil cooler and refresh the suspension, then I’ll be off to reliable races

Oh yeah. And retrofit the 2017+ VSC to get the track mode option

[TommyW]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

The only place that the recall not being done could be an issue at resale is California. Mind you it could be a total show stopper as far as selling the car there though.
The rest of the U.S. and all of Canada just don't care if the recall is done or not.

Correct. Calif it’s required however I’m wondering if a buyer elsewhere would be put off if there was an outstanding recall that hadnt been performed?

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by TommyW

Correct. Calif it’s required however I’m wondering if a buyer elsewhere would be put off if there was an outstanding recall that hadnt been performed?

As I see it there could be three groups of buyers:

1) People that hang out on social media and forums that know all about the recall fiasco and have a strong opinion on whether or not to have it done.

2) People that have had casual contact with the recall and don't really care one way or the other.

3) People that would say "What recall?". This is probably the largest group by far.

Being on the forum we all assume that everybody is as interested and follow things like we do when really where it is not forced most people just don't care.

[TommyW]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

As I see it there could be three groups of buyers:

1) People that hang out on social media and forums that know all about the recall fiasco and have a strong opinion on whether or not to have it done.

2) People that have had casual contact with the recall and don't really care one way or the other.

3) People that would say "What recall?". This is probably the largest group by far.

Being on the forum we all assume that everybody is as interested and follow things like we do when really where it is not forced most people just don't care.

if they run a CARFAX I think it shows up.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by TommyW

if they run a CARFAX I think it shows up.

That is my point really. Two of the three categories either wouldn't bother reading a Carfax or even if they did wouldn't care if the recall existed much less was done.

Ultimately it comes down to there likely being far more people (outside of California) that whether the recall was done or not would mean absolutely nothing.

We are the oddballs that actually followed and had concerns.

Personally if I was buying I would not care either way anymore as long as there were at least 10,000 miles put on it after the recall was done. I would not run out and have it done though.

[Dadhawk]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Personally if I was buying I would not care either way anymore as long as there were at least 10,000 miles put on it after the recall was done. I would not run out and have it done though.

Agreed. I have over 70K miles on mine since the spring recall (geez it was 3.5 years ago now) but if I bought a used model at this point I wouldn't have it done. Pretty much any 2013 that was going to fail because it was repaired, or because it wasn't, has failed unless you find some garage queen that has 100 miles on it.

[bcj]

If you're trading it in on another car at a dealer, you can be assured that the dealer will offer significantly less than a car with all the tsb's checked off.
They'll have all the ducks in rows and ranked battalions in depth and slavering GSDs.

[Dadhawk]

Originally Posted by bcj

If you're trading it in on another car at a dealer, you can be assured that the dealer will offer significantly less than a car with all the tsb's checked off.
They'll have all the ducks in rows and ranked battalions in depth and slavering GSDs.

In my case, that would mean the difference between them offering me $4,000 and $3,500 most likely!

(200,000+ miles, two CARFAX accidents, could use a hood repaint).

I'd likely get more value out of it by taking it to a demolition track then selling it for scrap.

[droopynips]

Originally Posted by WNDSRFR

I bought the first one I saw back in '13. Manufactured 12/12. Put over 200,000 miles on it. Only problems are TOB's and a worn out e-brake boot. And I'm more reactive than proactive on maintenance.
If I didn't already have one, I would have no problem with buying a '13 at the right price.

I bought a 2013 scion FRS with 43km on it for $11,000 Canadian, it was a chinese exchange student who had to fly back to Beijing in 2 days.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by droopynips

I bought a 2013 scion FRS with 43km on it for $11,000 Canadian, it was a chinese exchange student who had to fly back to Beijing in 2 days.

43 Kilometers, 4,300 Kilometers or 43,000 Kilometers?
Be a good deal at any of those but a super deal if actually 43Km!

[droopynips]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

43 Kilometers, 4,300 Kilometers or 43,000 Kilometers?
Be a good deal at any of those but a super deal if actually 43Km!

43km

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by droopynips

43km

Mine had more than that when I picked it up from the dealer!