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Aside from weather the biggest differences between this and the last comparison is the weight of the RF-ND and the gear ratios of the 86, I suppose the 5hp bump played a part too. The PP might have been worth a bit more because of the dampers, but I doubt it's significant. All in all, the equation hasn't changed, great little cars, take your pick on what you want to live with, some people want the top down, some people want a sizable trunk, some people like suspension compliance, some people like it flat from the factory. I hope the RF comes in lower trim options soon, Mazda will really kill sales if they keep it priced over $30k. |
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It's like the difference between adding 20whp to an 86/BRZ and adding 20whp to an 500hp BMW SUV lol. The end result is more apparent in the 86/BRZ
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If 100 lbs makes the difference for the Miata, don't short change the 86 by 300 lbs. |
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Yeah, they surpassed 100k units built in 2014, so I'm being a bit presumptuous that they continued at a rate and that it's surpassed 200k.
http://performancedrive.com.au/toyot...ustralia-2720/ Early statements claimed targets of 100k/year, which was in hindsight totally never going to happen, even at the time there was heavy skepticism around here they would hit that, a few optimists though. But we're coming up on 90k in the US alone, in May 2014 US had a bit more than 50k of the 100k total, so they're probably at ~170k-190k total units built and likely another 3-5 years of production slated, I'd say they're guaranteed to surpass 200k 86's built unless something cataclysmic happens. |
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That would at minimum show the general public that the 86 doesn't solely represent all the twins have to offer. While it would be hard to argue the 86 is better in any way compared to the BRZ, it would be interesting to hear what they thought going from one to another. I'd even wager Randy could shave off a full second with the BRZ as the result of its new spoiler, STI lip kit and PP. Oh well.. I wont complain too much, nice to hear journalists not bashing the twins for once |
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No spare!
I gave serious thought to buying the RF instead of the BRZ, in part because in gun metal gray, that Mazda is drop-dead beautiful. But I just could not get past the fact that it doesn't have a spare tire, not even a little weenie temp spare, just a can of goo! I could maybe get past the lack of back seats and the miniscule trunk and the almost no glove box and the fixed steering wheel. But just A CAN OF GOO? Sorry, the old backpacker in me needs more.
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..and then i saw the price. I did exactly what you did, bought a brz Also, you dont need a spare okay? not when they also dont come with tow hooks, scissor jack, or lug wrench https://forum.miata.net/vb/showthread.php?t=592645 |
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That being said, I can't fault MT for their conclusion either. Both are great cars and you really have to start to nitpick to decide which one is for you. Unless you either HATE or NEED a convertible.
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That was an issue from the supplier on early production vehicles. Any vehicles built after September 2015 don't have that issue, from my understanding.
All the vehicles that have suffered from transmission issues have been taken care of by Mazda, no questions asked. At least it was acknowledged and addressed.
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