Turbo BRZ vs A90 Supra - AMA related to these cars.

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by pgranberg11

I forgot to ask you and seeing your name pop up on facebook made me remember to ask you. When you said both our BRZs are not classed well for SM, what would you do differently do your BRZ to make it more competitive?

1. make it lighter; my car is significantly heavier than stock, with essentially only the addition of cooling, power, comfort, and aero mods, and zero weight reduction

2. make way more power. Ideally double, realistically I think 550whp would make it competitive. Every podium car in SM quite literally walks my Supra in a straight line.

3. class-competitive aero


The BRZ is in SM because of added boost. The Supra is in SM because of bolt-on aero. Quite literally, both cars are just run in whatever class they happen to fall in, and neither are built to any sort of class. I've always ran both cars with complete aftermarket audio systems in the car LOL

[pgranberg11]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

1. make it lighter; my car is significantly heavier than stock, with essentially only the addition of cooling, power, comfort, and aero mods, and zero weight reduction

2. make way more power. Ideally double, realistically I think 550whp would make it competitive. Every podium car in SM quite literally walks my Supra in a straight line.

3. class-competitive aero


The BRZ is in SM because of added boost. The Supra is in SM because of bolt-on aero. Quite literally, both cars are just run in whatever class they happen to fall in, and neither are built to any sort of class. I've always ran both cars with complete aftermarket audio systems in the car LOL

got it, those three things were all the things i was thinking about myself. gotta be bumpin in grid to get you in the right mindset or for the travel to and from the track lol. thanks

[WolfpackS2k]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

Cayman are much easier on tires, but go through brakes rather quickly. Of course the "easy" fix is to get brakes from a higher trim, but it's definitely not cheap!

I'm not club racing. Just run solo run group session HPDEs with PCA and NASA. My Pagid Yellows were only half worn after 5 weekends at RRR & VIR. (200 & 300 TW tires). Still had enough friction material left (when the engine blew) that someone gave me $100 for the pads.

That was far better brake wear, (for me) than my S2000 ever was. And the pads only cost about $100 more (new) than the S2000.

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by WolfpackS2k

I'm not club racing. Just run solo run group session HPDEs with PCA and NASA. My Pagid Yellows were only half worn after 5 weekends at RRR & VIR. (200 & 300 TW tires). Still had enough friction material left (when the engine blew) that someone gave me $100 for the pads.

That was far better brake wear, (for me) than my S2000 ever was. And the pads only cost about $100 more (new) than the S2000.

The comment was relative to a 5th generation Supra; Supra brakes are rather well sized from the factory!

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by Code Monkey

Nobody serious tracks the CTR on 20's, everyone runs 18's. Front brake pads are gone in three track days.

The car feels like doodoo on street 18's; people do it for 1. cost and 2. tire availability.

[WolfpackS2k]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

The comment was relative to a 5th generation Supra; Supra brakes are rather well sized from the factory!

Makes a lot more sense, haha.

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

The car feels like doodoo on street 18's; people do it for 1. cost and 2. tire availability.

Anyone tracking a heavy (relative speaking) powerful FWD car should know what they're getting into

[Jordanwolf]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

The car feels like doodoo on street 18's; people do it for 1. cost and 2. tire availability.

Very big doodoo.

[Jordanwolf]

Originally Posted by WolfpackS2k

Makes a lot more sense, haha.



Anyone tracking a heavy (relative speaking) powerful FWD car should know what they're getting into

For the most part I knew what I was getting into. There is easily much cheaper and better packages for HDPEs(etc) on a tight budget.

[Jordanwolf]

Originally Posted by Code Monkey

Nobody serious tracks the CTR on 20's, everyone runs 18's. Front brake pads are gone in three track days.

You can only run 19s in Street class. A rule that should be revised imo.

[WolfpackS2k]

Originally Posted by Jordanwolf

For the most part I knew what I was getting into. There is easily much cheaper and better packages for HDPEs(etc) on a tight budget.

You seem like the type that did