Take that all 86/FR-S/BRZ haters!!!!!!

[HKz]

Originally Posted by VoltsFRS2013

I usually never force a downshift into first in the auto using the paddles. Doesnt feel right, downshifting into first I let the computer do its thing


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doesn't feel right? nothing felt "wrong" when I was doing it with the auto, engine braking to each stop light was awesome.. still do it with the stick but definitely not to 1st

[VoltsFRS2013]

Originally Posted by HKz

doesn't feel right? nothing felt "wrong" when I was doing it with the auto, engine braking to each stop light was awesome.. still do it with the stick but definitely not to 1st

It honestly just falls into me being paranoid and this also being my first car. I guess I'm just not used to the feeling of gears downshifting so I get like extremely paranoid I'm going to fuck something up or downshift too quickly if that makes any sense.

[PetrolioBenzina]

Originally Posted by funwheeldrive

So you spent hundreds of dollars on an OFT for no reason at all? You weren't hoping to gain more torque/power from it whatsoever?

No, I was not hoping. I knew from reading about it that I would gain HP and torque. Just because. Is that not "driver involvement"?

Anyway, curvy-road drive complete. It was great fun. Some of you should try it.

This argument is dildos. I should go for another drive.

[Jordanwolf]

Originally Posted by funwheeldrive

I'm not your friend, buddy.


My commute is a 2-way road through windy hills. Because most people don't know how to drive, they tend to drive slower than the speed limit. This requires me to pass them whenever there are legal spots to do so. Sometimes the chain is so long that I have to pass several cars at once. I would love a little extra power (or a little less weight) so I could pass them with a little more ease.


My car is stock and I've owned it for almost 4 years. Obviously it gets the job done, but what is wrong with dreaming about a little more power in the future?

I'm sure the AT is fun, but what I like most about MT is that I get to use all 4 limbs of my body at once to be in sync with the car. With the AT my left foot is eliminated from the equation. (No, I don't want to brake with my left foot).


Also in regards to the tune, some people don't want to modify their brand new car.


So just because I would love this car even more than I already do if it had a little extra torque suddenly means that I can't drive? How many times have you been on a track buddy?


More torque isn't necessary to have fun in this car, I don't think anyone ever claimed that. But would it make an already stellar platform that much more enjoyable at times? Yeah, probably.

Originally Posted by funwheeldrive

Not everyone lives in a congested city. For example, my daily commute to work is a 30 minute drive in the hills. This is a big world my friend. You sound like you about 19-20 years old, so in a couple years you will probably come to realize that.

U sure bout that?

"Buddy", this whole time I have been talking about the lack of torque in traffic that you so claim, and now you're trying to derail and bring track into this conversation as if you are some race god?

First you assume my age because of my way of communicating, and now you assume I have never been to a track and must compensate as the race god you are? Girl you something else.

Oh and I'm sure we would all love some extra power/torque to go down some windy roads and carve some corners now, but that isn't what we were talking about were we?

[Jordanwolf]

Originally Posted by PetrolioBenzina

No, I was not hoping. I knew from reading about it that I would gain HP and torque. Just because. Is that not "driver involvement"?

Anyway, curvy-road drive complete. It was great fun. Some of you should try it.

This argument is dildos. I should go for another drive.

I really like dildos, they are good dog toys.

[Sideways&Smiling]

Originally Posted by Jordanwolf

It's really not. Please explain why torque is needed for traffic. Don't dodge it by implying sport cars in traffic are relative to a high torque requirement in traffic. These are not one in the same.

Congrats. You completely missed the point.

The point: Neither torque nor fun RWD sports cars are needed for the daily commuting grind. That doesn't stop people from wanting those things though.

[funwheeldrive]

Originally Posted by PetrolioBenzina

No, I was not hoping. I knew from reading about it that I would gain HP and torque. Just because. Is that not "driver involvement"?

So you tell other people to just downshift when they want more torque, when you yourself went out and bought something to add more torque to your car? Seems kinda wack.

Originally Posted by PetrolioBenzina

The gearbox is there for a reason. Use it to address your complaints. Easy.

Obviously you liked the idea of having more power than what the stock version had to offer.

Originally Posted by Jordanwolf

U sure bout that?

"Buddy", this whole time I have been talking about the lack of torque in traffic that you so claim, and now you're trying to derail and bring track into this conversation as if you are some race god?

First you assume my age because of my way of communicating, and now you assume I have never been to a track and must compensate as the race god you are? Girl you something else.

Oh and I'm sure we would all love some extra power/torque to go down some windy roads and carve some corners now, but that isn't what we were talking about were we?

You were supposed to say, "I'm not your buddy, guy". Nevermind about that though.

I'm not claiming to be a race god at all, but I think it's funny that you implied that just because someone likes the idea of more torque means that they don't know how to drive. I was just curious as to how much driving on a closed course you have done yourself?


We were talking about daily driving. Daily driving can include windy roads, hills, and other fun situations. It just depends on where you live right?

[humfrz]

Originally Posted by Sapphireho

Can I get public assistance?

Of course, they have a nice place up here for you to stay ........


humfrz

[humfrz]

Originally Posted by VoltsFRS2013

It honestly just falls into me being paranoid and this also being my first car. I guess I'm just not used to the feeling of gears downshifting so I get like extremely paranoid I'm going to fuck something up or downshift too quickly if that makes any sense.

Oh, VoltsFRS2013, in time, after you get to know a particular engine and drivetrain, knowing when and how far to downshift will come naturally.

Meanwhile, the important thing to worry about is over revving the engine on the way down.

The rev limiter will save you on the way up ....... but NOT on the way down.


humfrz

[VoltsFRS2013]

Originally Posted by humfrz

Oh, VoltsFRS2013, in time, after you get to know a particular engine and drivetrain, knowing when and how far to downshift will come naturally.

Meanwhile, the important thing to worry about is over revving the engine on the way down.

The rev limiter will save you on the way up ....... but NOT on the way down.


humfrz

Oh for sure, I have yet to overrev the engine on the way down. I guess it's just the like pulling sensation the car gives as you work your way down the gears (not sure if those were even the right words) that makes me a bit uneasy. If I were to drive a true manual I'd probably overcome that. Like logically you get that sensation because you're switching into a lower gear, I'm just so paranoid of causing an issue in my tranny that I just try not to risk it.

[humfrz]

Originally Posted by VoltsFRS2013

Oh for sure, I have yet to overrev the engine on the way down. I guess it's just the like pulling sensation the car gives as you work your way down the gears (not sure if those were even the right words) that makes me a bit uneasy. If I were to drive a true manual I'd probably overcome that. Like logically you get that sensation because you're switching into a lower gear, I'm just so paranoid of causing an issue in my tranny that I just try not to risk it.

Oh, my bad for not payen attention ....... I thought your car was a MT.

My comments were referring to a MT car.

My FR-S has a MT, but mrs humfrz's car is a 6 speed AT, with paddle shifters. A few times I tried to outsmart the transmission ...... I'm not smart enough nor fast enough.

So, when I drive her car, I simply put it into "D" and push on the gas to go faster and push on the brake to go slower and to stop.

See, pretty simple for me .......


humfrz

[VoltsFRS2013]

Originally Posted by humfrz

Oh, my bad for not payen attention ....... I thought your car was a MT.

My comments were referring to a MT car.

My FR-S has a MT, but mrs humfrz's car is a 6 speed AT, with paddle shifters. A few times I tried to outsmart the transmission ...... I'm not smart enough nor fast enough.

So, when I drive her car, I simply put it into "D" and push on the gas to go faster and push on the brake to go slower and stop.

See, pretty simple for me .......


humfrz

haha yes, the AT is a little wonky feeling sometimes. I've never driven in or driven the MT version of our car though so I dont really know. I try to just keep my shifting habits respectable since the car is programmed to do its own thing.

[HKz]

lol ya I wouldn't worry about anything especially after the car warms up..the computer is still managing everything with the trans when you're "forcing" a downshift. ah, the memories of hearing the twin's beep over and over telling me revvs are too high to downshift are engraved in my head

[Jordanwolf]

Originally Posted by funwheeldrive

So you tell other people to just downshift when they want more torque, when you yourself went out and bought something to add more torque to your car? Seems kinda wack.




Obviously you liked the idea of having more power than what the stock version had to offer.





You were supposed to say, "I'm not your buddy, guy". Nevermind about that though.

I'm not claiming to be a race god at all, but I think it's funny that you implied that just because someone likes the idea of more torque means that they don't know how to drive. I was just curious as to how much driving on a closed course you have done yourself?


We were talking about daily driving. Daily driving can include windy roads, hills, and other fun situations. It just depends on where you live right?

But you just assumed I have never been to a track, and implied that you have been to a track, therefore making you a better driver than myself. Aka, a race god. I don't see the relevance of track experience when the conversation was about traffic and torque and the fact that you claim you need torque just to daily drive.

I am strictly talking about real world driving, but you don't seem to get that at all and keep trying to make an ass out of u and me for some big **** contest you are having with yourself kek

I'm ded