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11-23-2021, 07:39 PM | #1 |
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downshifting to second
been driving my 2013 fr-s alone for a few weeks and ive had an issue when downshifting into 2nd or 1st, it just does not wanna go into gear and i try not to force it. sometimes it goes in sometimes it doesnt. and like after ive driven it at the end of the day it shifts like butter, smooth asf. any advice or knowledge would be greatly appreciated im a new driver . 40k miles btw
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Normal behavior for these cars. Before things get warmed up, learn to double clutch when you need to down shift.
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11-23-2021, 10:57 PM | #3 |
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adjust your clutch. Make sure it has minimal free play. yes it needs some, but if it has too much, the rod won't have enough authority to move the master cylinder enough.
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Totally normal for 2nd to be hard to put in when the car is cold.
Also I'm not sure there's a point downshifting into 1st. |
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Two solutions that work for me. 1. a small throttle blip will help the synchros do their thing (similar to double clutching) and 2. use patience with the shifter. put light pressure on the shifter and wait for it to slide into first.
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During double declutching you throttle blip while the shifter is in neutral and the clutch is engaged, hence you spin up the input shaft to match the speed of the output shaft times the gear ratio. Being gentle with the gear lever does help, as well as momentarily easing the pressure and then applying it again. I rarely have issues with downshifting to 2nd, even at fairly high speeds, but to 1st is always a tough one. |
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Rev matching is far more important the double clutching. I never double clutch my car and have no issue getting into second at speed.
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Again, rev-matching doesn't make any difference with how easy or difficult it is to select a gear. Feel free to try it without rev-matching and you'll see that the only difference occurs when you let go of the clutch pedal, not when you move the gear lever.
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I generally have no problem down shifting to first although I don't do it often at speeds above 10 mph. In my experience it rewards patience.
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Regular downshift:
Rev-matching downshift:
Double declutching downshift:
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Then rev the engine to high RPM and move the gear lever again. If your theory is correct, there should be a noticeable difference in the movement of the lever. I'll try it out the next time I'm driving. |
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You could also try this, a. put the car in neutral and try pushing it. Then, b, put it in first and have someone depress the clutch and try pushing it. In my fairly lengthy experience a car in gear with the clutch disengaged is more difficult to push than a car in neutral.
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