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Old 09-13-2021, 02:33 PM   #15
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Well plan on paying more and losing more on depreciation, when you buy in a bubble because of the various supply issues and increase in demand. Itís a sellers market and worst time to buy. But if the need is there I get it.
As long as you're not paying over MSRP, there isn't much markup between invoice and MSRP on the BRZ, WRX, etc. These aren't cars where people typically get $5k off or anything.

I paid close to full MSRP for my 2015 WRX (in 2014), it had no markups and no garbage accessories (tint, etc.). It was totaled 2 years later (no fault of my own) for $2k or so less than what i paid. Made me rethink how I buy cars in that I don't mind paying a bit more if value is retained.
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As long as you're not paying over MSRP, there isn't much markup between invoice and MSRP on the BRZ, WRX, etc. These aren't cars where people typically get $5k off or anything.

I paid close to full MSRP for my 2015 WRX (in 2014), it had no markups and no garbage accessories (tint, etc.). It was totaled 2 years later (no fault of my own) for $2k or so less than what i paid. Made me rethink how I buy cars in that I don't mind paying a bit more if value is retained.

The WRX, and even more so the STI, are known to hold their value really well. I think the BRZ and 86 fall into that category, although not quite as good as the WRX. Used car prices are ridiculous right now for any decent vehicle. Itís the classic supply and demand issue. New car production has been slowed down so much.
My advice is if you are planning on buying a second gen twin, sell your first gen now! If you have a second car to use until then.


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The WRX, and even more so the STI, are known to hold their value really well. I think the BRZ and 86 fall into that category, although not quite as good as the WRX. Used car prices are ridiculous right now for any decent vehicle. Itís the classic supply and demand issue. New car production has been slowed down so much.
My advice is if you are planning on buying a second gen twin, sell your first gen now! If you have a second car to use until then.
Facts. This is the only reason I'm offloading my current vehicle. Very rare to have the positive equity, especially when your car is usually worth as much as a paper clip and stick of gum. (Fiesta ST)
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The WRX, and even more so the STI, are known to hold their value really well. I think the BRZ and 86 fall into that category, although not quite as good as the WRX. Used car prices are ridiculous right now for any decent vehicle. Itís the classic supply and demand issue. New car production has been slowed down so much.
My advice is if you are planning on buying a second gen twin, sell your first gen now! If you have a second car to use until then.


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I donít know about that, but I get what youíre saying. Lol
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I stopped in at our local dealer in Vancouver, WA just to rattle cages and see if they knew anything. I was greeted by a pre-owned 2020 Hakone sitting right up against the glass front windows of the building. I was directed to a sales person with pretty eyes, lovely figure, and impractically long French-manicured nails. Alas, she knew next to nothing about cars, and less than nothing about the soon-to-come GR86. I had to point to the Hakone to explain to her what it was. She ran to her manager, who just shrugged.


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I see why that Hakone is so expensive. It has heated leather seats, leather seats, heated seats, and heated driver seat. So many seats! It's a like a green 4Runner.

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I stopped in at our local dealer in Vancouver, WA just to rattle cages and see if they knew anything. I was greeted by a pre-owned 2020 Hakone sitting right up against the glass front windows of the building. I was directed to a sales person with pretty eyes, lovely figure, and impractically long French-manicured nails. Alas, she knew next to nothing about cars, and less than nothing about the soon-to-come GR86. I had to point to the Hakone to explain to her what it was. She ran to her manager, who just shrugged.


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Oooh, I live about 5 minutes from McCord's. Happy to put you in touch with someone knowledgeable at a Subaru store in town if you're not 100% stuck on a GR86. And you're more than welcome to check out my BRZ when it comes in.
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Oooh, I live about 5 minutes from McCord's. Happy to put you in touch with someone knowledgeable at a Subaru store in town if you're not 100% stuck on a GR86. And you're more than welcome to check out my BRZ when it comes in.
Fellow Washingtonians?! Lol
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I stopped in at our local dealer in Vancouver, WA just to rattle cages and see if they knew anything. I was greeted by a pre-owned 2020 Hakone sitting right up against the glass front windows of the building. I was directed to a sales person with pretty eyes, lovely figure, and impractically long French-manicured nails. Alas, she knew next to nothing about cars, and less than nothing about the soon-to-come GR86. I had to point to the Hakone to explain to her what it was. She ran to her manager, who just shrugged.


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Yeah, my dealer knows about them and are waiting for allocations.
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Oooh, I live about 5 minutes from McCord's. Happy to put you in touch with someone knowledgeable at a Subaru store in town if you're not 100% stuck on a GR86. And you're more than welcome to check out my BRZ when it comes in.
Thanks! Probably I will try to stay with the GR for now.
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I *did* find out this Toyota dealership will take deposits to reserve a car, but can't yet with this one.
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Thanks! Probably I will try to stay with the GR for now.
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