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It was true for me before I got vaccinated. It's true for the vast majority of people I know personally who are not vaccinated. It may very well be untrue for some who are not vaccinated, and may be the norm for the unvaccinated people you know. There is nothing "absolute" about either. I did not say "every," I said "many." In my experience, it is true. I don't deny that others have different experiences.
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Who is more likely to spread Covid; an unvaccinated person who goes out for groceries once a week and lives in a rural area with no neighbors, maintaining separation at all times, or a vaccinated person who lives in a congested area, works daily with many coworkers in person, and goes out to dinner a few times a week?
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I didn't say that, nor did I imply that, nor do I think that. You have made my point for me; there are not exactly two scenarios in the vaccinated vs. "anti-vaxxer" debate, as many depict it. That IS the point.
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@MuseChaser, I agree with most of your statements. I'll happily accept ivermectin (or a massive dose of Hershey Kisses for that matter) once it is actually proven safe and effective, but idiots running down to the feed store to dose up on it will never make sense.
Not sure I understand "However, getting the vaccine is not an equally sure protection against being infected with Covid, nor against infecting others." because it certainly is a better solution than going unvaccinated, unless you live in a quarantine bubble. Maybe I'm misunderstanding. On another note, my son's quarantine ended yesterday. He got his smell/taste back on day 7 and that had been his only symptom.
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Two things to say responding to some of the latest:
1. There are SO many important results from being vaccinated. Like relieving pressure on the health care system. Stop pretending the only useful outcome is complete protection. It started off well on that front but the virus has mutated and we've learned... 2. If you are not anti-vaccine but are anti-mandate, stop the whining and step up with effective alternatives to get us to a place people arent sentenced to death because the ER was full and they had an unrelated issue needing immediate care. Non-mandate alternatives certainly been tried, with (usually predictable) failure as the main outcome.
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. Doctors prescribe medications, and no Canadian or American doctor wants to, or will prescribe Ivermectin for Covid19 treatment. Musechaser, you seem to have a fixation with it. . How is the real world somehow running away with some people? If a medication passes a clinical trial proving it safe and effective, and is approved for use, it can be prescribed. I predict that will not happen. No doubt the license holder would be throwing money at it if they felt it could pass clinical approval.
Do you condone taking non-approved prescription medication? Maybe a 1:20 dilution of the oral syringe from the Co-op store will do the trick. At least it will cure worms and maybe scabies. Musechaser, if your mother was 90 and living in a nursing home, would you argue the rights of antivaxxers to work there? They could have 2 PCR tests weekly, and hopefully detect an infection they are far more likely to catch. I'm not so free wheelin'. And apparently trusting others doesn't work since I lost my father despite being in lockdown for months prior to infection. He only had contact with 1 or 2 people, PSWs, and we put our trust in them. And they probably put their trust in their familys and friends at Christmas, resulting in my Dad being infected a few days later. And despite Tyler Lieberman or whoever creating a tag for this thread entitled "watch wbradley cry", I have empathy AND functioning tear ducts.
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