New Stage 2 UEL (91-93 and E85) OTS tune files - Page 18 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

FRSBRZGT86FAN · 04-12-2016, 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jvincent

For those of you who haven't checked in RomRaider yet, there are 12 tables that have changes when you compare the OTS tunes to the OFH optimized tune. They are:

Primary open loop fueling
Engine Load Limit B Maximum (RPM)
Engine Load Limit C Maximum (RPM)
Base Timing B
Knock Correction Advance Max A
Timing Compensation (IAT)
Timing Compensation Per Cylinder A
Timing Compensation Per Cylinder B
Intake Cam Advance Angle Safe AVCS
Intake Cam Advance Angle Normal AVCS
Exhaust Cam Retard Angle Safe AVCS
Exhaust Cam Retard Angle Normal AVCS

What does all of this mean? Just that the tunes are different. When you look at the areas you'll see that the changes are designed to go together since many of them are in the same general RPM/load area.

Using these with a different header will clearly be a YMMV situation. If you are looking to try them out just go ahead and log the data.

What data channels do we log for specifically?

jvincent · 04-12-2016, 07:11 PM

I can't remember the list off the top of my head, but it's in @steve99's tuning thread.

B-R-Z · 04-12-2016, 07:32 PM

Does anyone have any butt dyno numbers yet on these new tunes?

Wayno · 04-12-2016, 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shiv@Openflash

Hi guys,
The VVT tables are optimized specifically for the OFH. I cannot predict how it will work with other headers. I wouldn't say that they are incompatible with other headers. All I can say is that they may not be optimized. These maps are pretty aggressive so please don't treat them like any other OTS map.

The AVCS maps fell much better than the old maps. As a bonus they also make AFR better behaved around the 3700rpm mark. I've had them included in my examples for all UEL since about a week after you sent them to testers.

HLHachiRoku · 04-12-2016, 07:42 PM

So can I use this new tune and change the VVT that you posted shiv for JDL UEL headers? or will this cause issues? @shiv@openflah I'm in love with this OFT, thank you again so much for putting out such a great product and support!!

Been hard to find the time to get to changing my tune =(

iJeff · 04-12-2016, 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HLHachiRoku

So can I use this new tune and change the VVT that you posted shiv for JDL UEL headers? or will this cause issues? @shiv@openflah I'm in love with this OFT, thank you again so much for putting out such a great product and support!!

Been hard to find the time to get to changing my tune =(

Do it at your own risk. He wouldn't recommend it.

FRSBRZGT86FAN · 04-12-2016, 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jvincent

I can't remember the list off the top of my head, but it's in @steve99's tuning thread.

IAM
commanded afr
LTFT
STFT
maf voltage

Thats about it

Stealthy · 04-12-2016, 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jyn

I understand supporting your product first (OFH) and have no problem with that. I also understand that there's an exponentially large amount of aftermarket setups, but my question is: are there plans to have similar optimizations for other headers such as JDL, Borla, Tomei?

They offer custom tuning services if you want more optimization

ML · 04-12-2016, 09:32 PM

Top end feels a little more peppy. Nice job shiv!

tdotBRZ · 04-12-2016, 11:41 PM

anyone with Tomei UEL tried these new tunes out yet? Any knock or issues? Any feedback appreciated

Jyn · 04-13-2016, 12:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stealthy

They offer custom tuning services if you want more optimization

Will just go EcuTek if I'm gong to do an optimized tune. My request is more of a curiosity thing than a request - I completely understand it'd be at the goodwill of OFT.

phrosty · 04-13-2016, 12:54 AM

Important note for AT owners who've added a soft RPM limit -- the Base Timing B table in the AT roms has 7600 at full timing. Be careful if you're copying tables over

cawith · 04-13-2016, 09:06 AM

Say I want to try those new maps on my european GT86 running A00G, would I just have to change the following 12 tables @jvincent ?

Primary open loop fueling
Engine Load Limit B Maximum (RPM)
Engine Load Limit C Maximum (RPM)
Base Timing B
Knock Correction Advance Max A
Timing Compensation (IAT)
Timing Compensation Per Cylinder A
Timing Compensation Per Cylinder B
Intake Cam Advance Angle Safe AVCS
Intake Cam Advance Angle Normal AVCS
Exhaust Cam Retard Angle Safe AVCS
Exhaust Cam Retard Angle Normal AVCS

I find it quite hard to compare the new stage 2 map with my current one because Shiv states that those should only be edited with their supplied XMLs, and usually I use Kodename's template. Therefore a lot of tables are missing or placed somewhere else...

Hope somebody can help me

jvincent · 04-13-2016, 09:14 AM

@cawith, when you compare your current ROM with the new ROM using Kodenames XML, what other differences do you see?

You should be OK just copying over those tables though.

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04-12-2016, 07:11 PM	#240
jvincent Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Drives: 2022 WRB BRZ Sport-Tech Location: Ottawa, Canada Posts: 1,746 Thanks: 131 Thanked 1,410 Times in 715 Posts Mentioned: 25 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	I can't remember the list off the top of my head, but it's in @steve99's tuning thread.

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HLHachiRoku Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Drives: 2015 HL FR-S Location: AZ Posts: 130 Thanks: 34 Thanked 18 Times in 14 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	So can I use this new tune and change the VVT that you posted shiv for JDL UEL headers? or will this cause issues? @shiv@openflah I'm in love with this OFT, thank you again so much for putting out such a great product and support!! Been hard to find the time to get to changing my tune =(

04-12-2016, 11:41 PM	#248
tdotBRZ Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Drives: 2014 BRZ Limited SWP 6MT Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 106 Thanks: 30 Thanked 68 Times in 46 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	anyone with Tomei UEL tried these new tunes out yet? Any knock or issues? Any feedback appreciated

04-13-2016, 09:06 AM	#251
cawith Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Drives: Toyota GT86 6M/T Location: Denmark Posts: 90 Thanks: 59 Thanked 7 Times in 5 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Say I want to try those new maps on my european GT86 running A00G, would I just have to change the following 12 tables @jvincent ? Primary open loop fueling Engine Load Limit B Maximum (RPM) Engine Load Limit C Maximum (RPM) Base Timing B Knock Correction Advance Max A Timing Compensation (IAT) Timing Compensation Per Cylinder A Timing Compensation Per Cylinder B Intake Cam Advance Angle Safe AVCS Intake Cam Advance Angle Normal AVCS Exhaust Cam Retard Angle Safe AVCS Exhaust Cam Retard Angle Normal AVCS I find it quite hard to compare the new stage 2 map with my current one because Shiv states that those should only be edited with their supplied XMLs, and usually I use Kodename's template. Therefore a lot of tables are missing or placed somewhere else... Hope somebody can help me

04-13-2016, 09:14 AM	#252
jvincent Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Drives: 2022 WRB BRZ Sport-Tech Location: Ottawa, Canada Posts: 1,746 Thanks: 131 Thanked 1,410 Times in 715 Posts Mentioned: 25 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	@cawith, when you compare your current ROM with the new ROM using Kodenames XML, what other differences do you see? You should be OK just copying over those tables though.

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