All-New 2022 Subaru BRZ Makes Global Debut

[ZDan]

Originally Posted by Cephas

Did I see somewhere that the Base trim will still have 17s? I feel like 18s on this platform end up with too little rubber for regular streets.

https://media.subaru.com/pressreleas...s-global-debut
215/45 R17 87W Premium
215/40 R18 85Y Limited

I'm hoping that 17s will still clear the hopefully-forthcoming PP model brakes...

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Ryephile

The press release states the wheelbase increased by 0.02", which is inaccurate. Ditto the typo regarding the height delta. Like @ZDan said; press releases are occasionally incorrect, this isn't news. The press release even says it in bold:


"Preliminary Specifications. All data estimated and not final."



Reading the quotes you've taken out of the press release tells me you're searching for words to support a conclusion instead of inferring the most probable answers. Relax, the "final answers" will come in 9 months or so.

It is the data we have now. From the manufacturer. Yes some will change as they said. It is still more accurate than "inferring the more probable" which just means assuming.

How do you know the data ins inaccurate? where do you get the real numbers from?

It is the opposite. I am not trying to use the data to support a conclusion I am developing a conclusion using the data. Seems to be an unacceptable concept to actually use data here. Better to just make shit up to support what people want to hear I guess.
So many will believe every word some clickbait will write but ignore the actual published data. Unbelievable.

[Sasquachulator]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

It is the data we have now. From the manufacturer. Yes some will change as they said. It is still more accurate than "inferring the more probable" which just means assuming.

How do you know the data ins inaccurate? where do you get the real numbers from?

It is the opposite. I am not trying to use the data to support a conclusion I am developing a conclusion using the data. Seems to be an unacceptable concept to actually use data here. Better to just make shit up to support what people want to hear I guess.
So many will believe every word some clickbait will write but ignore the actual published data. Unbelievable.

pfft data....
I'd rather believe that i got what i want, than read data and find out i got nothing that i wanted.
ITS STILL REAL TO ME DAMMIT!

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Sasquachulator

pfft data....
I'd rather believe that i got what i want, than read data and find out i got nothing that i wanted.
ITS STILL REAL TO ME DAMMIT!

yep if you don't like the facts as presented you just change them to meet your desires and all is good.
Seems to be the thing to do these days.

[HKz]

so since they got rid of the easily customizable fender garnish, do yall think the ducktail & little spat/arch on the rear wheel wells will be the new swappable parts? those 2 pieces look like they are separate from the trunk and quarter panel as they are have some panel gaps. could be interesting for those folks who say they hate ducktails..idgi but to each their own

[gymratter]

its better to do an overlay when the blueprints are released or at least those 3rd model renderings. its hard to make an accurate comparison with two random photos.

[Jordanwolf]

Originally Posted by Lelandjt

Anyone else stoked to see the wing replaced with the duck tail? I expected it but was still happy to see it.
Anyone else notice that the BASE new Civic has a turbo and more power? I get all their arguments but as the rest of the industry marches forward this car will still feel comparatively underpowered, even with the new stronger engine, and ESPECIALLY at altitude. I need to test drive it at home between 9,000-11,000ft before buying to see if it has enough torque to break the tires loose in 2nd gear without a clutch pop.

Where are you getting this from? The new 2022 Civic as from what I can tell is in prototype status and has no confirmed specs besides 4 wheels 4 doors some windows and lights. I would love to see a source.

[TheDonEffect]

Originally Posted by Spuds

There are tow hook covers. 2 in the back and 1 at the very top left corner of the grille (looking from front).

I can't see them in any of the photos.

[Cephas]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

From release info at the start of this thread.
"Wheels 17-inch aluminum alloy on Premium"

Did anybody else actually READ that info?

That was like... 38 pages ago, man...

Originally Posted by ZDan

https://media.subaru.com/pressreleas...s-global-debut
215/45 R17 87W Premium
215/40 R18 85Y Limited

I'm hoping that 17s will still clear the hopefully-forthcoming PP model brakes...

Ah, I was conflating Premium and Limited in my head (not a Subaru native).

[Sasquachulator]

Originally Posted by TheDonEffect

I can't see them in any of the photos.

Bottom right, at the top of the smiley part of the grille. Theres a little cutout.

I didnt see it at first but then when i went back to the first page of this thread i noticed it on that pic.

Its hidden real good.

the ones in the back are just above the exhaust tips at the top of the black plastic part

[Spuds]

Originally Posted by Sasquachulator

Bottom right, at the top of the smiley part of the grille. Theres a little cutout.

I didnt see it at first but then when i went back to the first page of this thread i noticed it on that pic.

Its hidden real good.

That whole top fin element within the grille section is also part of it.

And the rear covers are shown in this post, directly above the exhaust pipes.
https://www.ft86club.com/forums/show...&postcount=425

[gymratter]

Originally Posted by indio22

Same - will need to see in person. That said, the first gen had me at hello. This one not so much.

I don't care for the tear drop looking ducts under each front headlight. Nor the big fin-thing below each rocker panel on the sides. I'm surprised people like those two elements, but as mentioned, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I wonder what the rear tail lights look like at night? I very much like the round lights on my first gen BRZ when lit up.

Overall very happy Subaru is still offering this car - hope it sells well. And hey Subaru - how about offering the car in red in the USA again? WTH - Subaru discontinued the color red in the USA for the last year of the first gen 2020 model. A sports car not offered in red?! Subaru don't pull that nonsense with the new version.

not directing this towards you, but IIRC, back in 2011 when the 86 was unveiled a lot of people were whining about this and that (Z4 tail lights, rising of the hood, ect). like with a lot of new cars it will take sometime to get adjusting to.

yeah those look odd as f***. agree, they could have done a better job with the fin. maybe something like the RCF?

[wbradley]

The new twins will have 97% of the power to weight ratio of the current WRX. With a more appropriate torque curve of course.
It sounds like this car wont need to be modified from stock much at all. That itself would have saved me a ton of money and helped preserve resale value.

[Yoshoobaroo]

Originally Posted by wbradley

The new twins will have 97% of the power to weight ratio of the current WRX. With a more appropriate torque curve of course.
It sounds like this car wont need to be modified from stock much at all. That itself would have saved me a ton of money and helped preserve resale value.

Agreed, one of these with an E85 tune, PS4s, and some lowering springs will be damn quick.