2022 Toyota 86 (Click-bait articles)

[DarkPira7e]

Originally Posted by Yoshoobaroo

They have 2 options that are way better:

1. Create high quality original content.
2. Get a different job.

I definitely don't disagree. I can't believe people have found such a niche to profit from, but it works for them. Don't fix what isn't broken, right? Until this strategy stops working, they will exploit just as any other business does

[Red-86]

The funny thing about the Youtubers opining on the next gen twins is that they have no extra info that anyone else with a functioning internet connection doesn’t already have. If they had actual inside sources of info, at least they’d be bringing something new to the table. But they literally just churn over the clickbaity speculation that has already done the rounds on the forums days earlier. “Comment, like, subscribe,” my a$$. Just because they have a camera and an opinion, doesn’t mean the world owes them a living through YT revenue.

[soundman98]

Circlejerk is the word you're looking for

[Sasquachulator]

Originally Posted by soundman98

Circlejerk is the word you're looking for

DORIFTOJERK!!!

its gotta be 86 related!

[wagonicfolding]

Just buy a 1st gen 2017+ and you'll have one of the most reliable sports cars for years to come.

[JesseG]

Originally Posted by reeves

Regardless of the looks/engine, if it's got close to these N/A figures for the HP/Torque (~220/180), I'm all in. I don't even care what it looks like any more, as long as it doesn't look like the Civic Type-R.. so I'm setting my expectations super low regarding the looks lol.

I just hope the engine still revs to at least 7K RPM. I don't care for the turbo or AWD versions if they decide to go that route.

The poor Civic Type R can’t catch a break
It might be considered the greatest car on the planet if it was attractive?!

I agree on your other points. Personally I think the FRS/86/BRZ are very attractive cars. I’m a little biased towards the Zenki models, but the refreshed twins look awesome also. Especially when they are slightly lowered. I even like the stock wheels. I always look back at my car, and I know that means Toyota and Subaru got it right. I have confidence the 2nd gen won’t stray too far from the 1st gen. This has all the signs of being a major update instead of clean sheet all new.


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[new2subaru]

I hope that the wheels are 114.3 and a direct swap to Gen 1

[Yoshoobaroo]

Originally Posted by new2subaru

I hope that the wheels are 114.3 and a direct swap to Gen 1

Gen 1 is 5x100

[Yoshoobaroo]

Originally Posted by JesseG

The poor Civic Type R can’t catch a break
It might be considered the greatest car on the planet if it was RWD

Fixed

[new2subaru]

Originally Posted by Yoshoobaroo

Gen 1 is 5x100

I meant the hubs are a direct swap so we can use 5 x 114.3 wheels on on Gen 1


5 x 100 is limited

[Yoshoobaroo]

Originally Posted by new2subaru

I meant the hubs are a direct swap so we can use 5 x 114.3 wheels on on Gen 1


5 x 100 is limited

Ah I see. Yea agreed 5x100 is limited for choice.

[JesseG]

Originally Posted by Yoshoobaroo

Fixed

Ha!! Well it doesn’t have to be RWD to run circles around everything else in its price range. Not to mention it’s ability to be a great daily driver. The polarizing styling is its main drawback for most people. I’ve always like its aggressive look, it fits its purpose.
I know Honda and Toyota have slightly different approaches to car building, I just really appreciate the love and attention to detail Honda puts in their Type R cars.


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[Yoshoobaroo]

Originally Posted by JesseG

Ha!! Well it doesn’t have to be RWD to run circles around everything else in its price range. Not to mention it’s ability to be a great daily driver. The polarizing styling is its main drawback for most people. I’ve always like its aggressive look, it fits its purpose.
I know Honda and Toyota have slightly different approaches to car building, I just really appreciate the love and attention to detail Honda puts in their Type R cars.


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Yea, I’m one of those people that would take a 200hp RWD car over a 300hp FWD car any day. I just can’t stand the way a FWD car feels when you put the power down in a curve.

[pallen]

Originally Posted by Yoshoobaroo

Yea, I’m one of those people that would take a 200hp RWD car over a 300hp FWD car any day. I just can’t stand the way a FWD car feels when you put the power down in a curve.

Yep - I dont hate the looks of the Civic, but fwd scratched it off my list.
I had a Mazdaspeed3 for a while. Lots of fun, practical car and faster than my 86, but I love the 86 so much more - mostly because its RWD. Low CG, balanced handling, RWD wins for me. Other people have other things they love - that's ok.