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Old 02-02-2015, 09:40 AM   #309
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A lot of work went into this, too:

Yeah, but it can't corner worth a damn.
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This is the ugliest FRS I've seen.
There could be a reason for that: it's not a Twin.
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They're not pretty, does nothing for the aesthetics, but they make me feel less sorry for my car when doing scandinavian flicks on dirt roads.
Man, that black car and those rims in the snow are simply awesome.
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The OEM ones aren't really "flaps", they are minimal extensions that actually do a pretty good job. Here's a photo of a Firestorm with them on (I also have them but these are better photos @NoFear99.)
Actually, they are called "mud guards". I'm putting a set on my baby today.
$95 U.S. list, $42 on eBay.



P.S.: These mud guards and the TRD cold air intake are two items that, in my opinion, should have been included as stock items on the base model. Consider that we have three holes (two visible) in the rear part of each fender/bumper cover/wheelwell liner to accommodate attaching these things. The car comes in the U.S. without even plugs for these holes. The mud guard appears to be a part intended to be included originally, but for some reason ($$$) was left off at the last minute. So it's now an "option."
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Actually, they are called "mud guards". I'm putting a set on my baby today.
$95 U.S. list, $42 on eBay.



P.S.: These mud guards and the TRD cold air intake are two items that, in my opinion, should have been included as stock items on the base model. Consider that we have three holes (two visible) in the rear part of each fender/bumper cover/wheelwell liner to accommodate attaching these things. The car comes in the U.S. without even plugs for these holes. The mud guard appears to be a part intended to be included originally, but for some reason ($$$) was left off at the last minute. So it's now an "option."
They are included on all Canadian cars. We also get heated mirrors as standard.
I guess they figure that the need stops at the border.
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The OEM ones aren't really "flaps", they are minimal extensions that actually do a pretty good job. Here's a photo of a Firestorm with them on (I also have them but these are better photos @NoFear99.)
Those look great, the OEM look is awesome.

Here is my vote, for an awful looking car:
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If there was a guy at work that everyone thought was some jacked alpha male bodybuilder, and then one day you noticed he's wearing a foam muscle suite underneath his clothes, would you think he were an honest and respectable person? Would you lose respect for him?

That's how I view it, and I just think it's pathetic. Just an attempt to give yourself a fake image.

Perhaps I should explain. Would I, Personally, lose respect for him? Yes. Yes I would. Would I run around the office telling everyone "OH MY GOD!!!! HE'S WEARING A FOAM BODY SUIT AND LYING TO PEOPLE!!!!" -- No. No I wouldn't. Why not? Because I'm not the one wearing the body suit or interested in seeing what said person really looked like.

If you play that game, then everyone woman who has fake breasts should be flamed too right? -- WOAH!!! Let's not take it so far, right?
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They are included on all Canadian cars. We also get heated mirrors as standard.
I guess they figure that the need stops at the border
Wish I knew that the FRS had heated mirrors before buying aftermarket mirrors. Would have gotten ones that were heated. Oh well shouldn't be too hard to sell the ones I have at the moment.
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They are included on all Canadian cars. We also get heated mirrors as standard.
I guess they figure that the need stops at the border.
Funny that, the need should be the same in Norway. We get heated folding mirrors as standard, but I had to convince the Toyota dealer that the OEM mud guards existed and I had to pay quite a lot for them, considering they're just molded plastic. (Don't ask how much, I'm not good with numbers)
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You know some of us old guys shouldn't say much if we were into mucle cars in the 70s!
Not mine (don't know if any pics even exist) but my 70 R/T looked just like this:





and one of my dream cars was this:



Sort of reverse stance and a big wing is a big wing no matter how you justify it.
Just as silly in hindsight!

but then again, the R/T was built like that to get the most traction, and while it wasn't a total success that wing was added to keep the the vehicle stable while racing in an oval.

my point is, while the cars do stand out, they were designed with function in mind.

My philosophy is "Function over form, however the function in an off itself can make for one hell of a form."
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This is the ugliest FRS I've seen.
C'mon now at least give him/her some creds for using mostly Subie parts!
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Instead of just telling someone their car sucks, you could say that "you think the car might work a little better if you did not do any of the stuff that you did to it in the first place"
^^^ How's that? ^^^ Is that better than just saying that they PERSONALLY think a certain 86 is ugly? Or should we give everyone trophies for buying a twin and making it their own, even if their work looks like a hot wheels car that's been stepped on too many times?

This is a PUBLIC forum for people to share ideas, opinions, tips and information. Not a circle jerk where we make everyone feel better by singing kumbaya and making smores (though I am down for some smores if anyone wants to organize an 86 camping trip )

Every person is entitled to make their car how THEY like it... once it is shared with the world via the internet, we are all entitled to have an opinion of it, good or bad, and we are all entitled to share that opinion on this public forum.

If you don't like it, don't read it. Or if you enjoy open debate, tell me why you don't agree with my opinion by expressing your own... But bashing someone for explaining why they don't like a certain mod, trend, style, etc. is hypocritical and is just an attempt to suppress free-thinking and open, constructive discussion.
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C'mon now at least give him/her some creds for using mostly Subie parts!
I think the front is smexy though.
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^^^ How's that? ^^^ Is that better than just saying that they PERSONALLY think a certain 86 is ugly? Or should we give everyone trophies for buying a twin and making it their own, even if their work looks like a hot wheels car that's been stepped on too many times?

This is a PUBLIC forum for people to share ideas, opinions, tips and information. Not a circle jerk where we make everyone feel better by singing kumbaya and making smores (though I am down for some smores if anyone wants to organize an 86 camping trip )

Every person is entitled to make their car how THEY like it... once it is shared with the world via the internet, we are all entitled to have an opinion of it, good or bad, and we are all entitled to share that opinion on this public forum.

If you don't like it, don't read it. Or if you enjoy open debate, tell me why you don't agree with my opinion by expressing your own... But bashing someone for explaining why they don't like a certain mod, trend, style, etc. is hypocritical and is just an attempt to suppress free-thinking and open, constructive discussion.
Well, most people in this thread have simply stated "it looks stupid". Then when they give reasons, the wrong terminology is used. I'm all for an open debate, but with the way opinions have been expressed, some people need to get off their high horses.

For example, @636 car. I've said I love his car, but for me he's running a bit too much camber. That's a lot different than just saying "your car is dumb because camber". But, his car stands out quite a bit and I really, really like that about it.

Like it or not, "stance" is here to stay. And I have that in quotations because there could be infinite examples of stance. Stance, to me, is simply how a car sits. "Hellaflush" cars have stance, jacked up trucks have stance. The only thing I will hate on in the car community is someone doing something to their car which is definitely going to end up being unsafe for other motorists. Excessive tire stretch, cut springs, running bald tires, that kind of shit.

Personally, I like a wide range of car types. Lowriders, muscle cars, track beasts, trucks (all kinds for all applications). And I think that closing yourself off to one narrow view of cars is going to make you miss out on a lot of cool stuff that you may never have seen before.

And let's be honest here, negative camber WILL help with handling (not in extreme cases, such as oni) and a 0* camber angle will only really help in a straight line, which, time and time again on this site its been stated. "This car is not meant for a straight line"
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