***Finally!!! Bilstein B14/PSS Coilovers*** - Page 6 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

KayC · 12-02-2013, 02:41 AM

Just ordered these! Before I pulled the trigger, my top 3 choices were STs , RCEtarmac zeros, and these Bilstein PSS14. This is my DD with some occasional spirited back country cruises and occasional track use. Since they are priced so low on ft86speedfactory right now it's really hard to pass on them. Can't wait till I get them on!

coolaron · 12-02-2013, 03:12 AM

Are you installing it on your 9.5 width wheels?

Can you please let us know how it goes in terms of clearance?

Thank you!

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Originally Posted by PRORICAN

Ordered these last night, @FT-86 SpeedFactory has them priced pretty low right now for those of you interested! Can't wait to try them out!

PRORICAN · 12-02-2013, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by coolaron

Are you installing it on your 9.5 width wheels?

Can you please let us know how it goes in terms of clearance?

Thank you!

Yup, after looking at them closely it looks like the spring perch is narrow enough to clear. The part that rubs on wide wheels is the wide stock spring perch and these are only wide after the first coil on the springs. I'll let you guys know for sure after installation.

mid_life_crisis · 12-02-2013, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Racecomp Engineering

The Bilstein is a monotube with decent gas pressure so you get a little more response and more precise reaction from the dampers.

IMO the Bilstein will lend itself better to bigger bumps while the KW, ST, or our RCE T0 will be smoother on smaller bumps. That's generally the case with a good monotube vs. a good twintube. It's going to be good ride quality either way.

- Andy

Which is best on deep potholes? Seriously. I live near Raleigh, where potholes have to be deep enough to bottom out in before they'll fill them.

MyEvilMonkeys · 12-02-2013, 10:59 PM

Looking at the threaded adjustments there isn't a preload adjustment. Is this because even at its most conservative setting the spring needs to be compressed much like stock springs? Or because progressive springs or both? I don't want the clunking normally associated with lack of or incorrect preload. thanks for the clarification.

Fizz · 12-02-2013, 11:52 PM

Yes the springs are progressive instead of linear like on most other coilovers. My drop is 1" lower (from factory height) and even though there is some preload on the springs at this setting I don't get any clunking whatsoever, ride is controlled and very well damped.

Clunking is normally associated with incorrect installation. All suspension systems generally have some amount of preload....even the stock suspension does. If you didn't have preload, the springs will become 'loose' when fully extended. Not really an issue unless you get airborne often.

FR-S Matt · 12-06-2013, 06:47 AM

Are the new Bilstein B14's very similar to the Tarmac 0's? Springs look a bit bigger on the Bilstein's. I was curious to how they ride on the street while lowered. I'm on the last thread on the front of my 0's and all I get is that long bump travel over small "hill-like" bumps. Otherwise a very smooth ride.

OICU812 · 12-06-2013, 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by PRORICAN

Ordered these last night, @FT-86 SpeedFactory has them priced pretty low right now for those of you interested! Can't wait to try them out!

Interested to hear your thoughts on these.

Anomie · 12-06-2013, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by PRORICAN

Yup, after looking at them closely it looks like the spring perch is narrow enough to clear. The part that rubs on wide wheels is the wide stock spring perch and these are only wide after the first coil on the springs. I'll let you guys know for sure after installation.

I'm also interested in how these fit on your wheel setup. When do you plan on installing?

PRORICAN · 12-06-2013, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by OICU812

Interested to hear your thoughts on these.

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Originally Posted by Anomie

I'm also interested in how these fit on your wheel setup. When do you plan on installing?

Should be coming in today so I'll have them on this weekend! I'll let you guys know what I think soon after.

RYU · 12-06-2013, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by PRORICAN

Should be coming in today so I'll have them on this weekend! I'll let you guys know what I think soon after.

Give it about a week of driving so they can settle in. Interested to hear your thoughts!

PRORICAN · 12-06-2013, 06:48 PM

Didn't get my Bilstein's today

. It required a signature and my wife and I were stuck working so now I have to wait until Monday for either a second delivery attempt or pick up at their customer center. I thought ups delivered on Saturdays but I guess not.

smbstyle · 12-09-2013, 10:48 AM

@FT-86 SpeedFactory or anyone else; how do these compare with the RCE Tarmac Zeros, besides the linear vs. progressive springs?

Krispeee · 12-10-2013, 12:48 PM

Looking at a set of B14s to purchase, so a review on how they perform would be great. Subscribed!

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PRORICAN Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: BRZ Location: Cape Cod Posts: 804 Thanks: 872 Thanked 560 Times in 258 Posts Mentioned: 26 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Didn't get my Bilstein's today . It required a signature and my wife and I were stuck working so now I have to wait until Monday for either a second delivery attempt or pick up at their customer center. I thought ups delivered on Saturdays but I guess not. __________________ BeastCoast.US feature http://beastcoast.us/2013/11/28/all-the-right-moves/ Build Thread http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8204

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smbstyle Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Drives: 2013 SWP BRZ Location: Forsyth, GA Posts: 1,008 Thanks: 224 Thanked 681 Times in 302 Posts Mentioned: 26 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	@FT-86 SpeedFactory or anyone else; how do these compare with the RCE Tarmac Zeros, besides the linear vs. progressive springs? __________________ ----------------------------------- 2013 SWP BRZ Build Thread: http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=38781

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KayC Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Drives: 2013 whiteout FRS 6mt Location: Vancouver BC Posts: 106 Thanks: 72 Thanked 59 Times in 27 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Just ordered these! Before I pulled the trigger, my top 3 choices were STs , RCEtarmac zeros, and these Bilstein PSS14. This is my DD with some occasional spirited back country cruises and occasional track use. Since they are priced so low on ft86speedfactory right now it's really hard to pass on them. Can't wait till I get them on!

12-02-2013, 10:59 PM	#75
MyEvilMonkeys Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Drives: 2013 Scion FRS Location: Bend, OR Posts: 87 Thanks: 35 Thanked 73 Times in 23 Posts Mentioned: 7 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Looking at the threaded adjustments there isn't a preload adjustment. Is this because even at its most conservative setting the spring needs to be compressed much like stock springs? Or because progressive springs or both? I don't want the clunking normally associated with lack of or incorrect preload. thanks for the clarification.

12-02-2013, 11:52 PM	#76
Fizz Senior Addict Join Date: Jan 2013 Drives: 86 GT Location: Perth, Australia Posts: 1,217 Thanks: 249 Thanked 336 Times in 215 Posts Mentioned: 12 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Yes the springs are progressive instead of linear like on most other coilovers. My drop is 1" lower (from factory height) and even though there is some preload on the springs at this setting I don't get any clunking whatsoever, ride is controlled and very well damped. Clunking is normally associated with incorrect installation. All suspension systems generally have some amount of preload....even the stock suspension does. If you didn't have preload, the springs will become 'loose' when fully extended. Not really an issue unless you get airborne often.

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Krispeee Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Drives: 2013 Subaru BRZ Limited Location: NorCal Bay Area Posts: 298 Thanks: 175 Thanked 119 Times in 92 Posts Mentioned: 9 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Looking at a set of B14s to purchase, so a review on how they perform would be great. Subscribed!

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