Video: Toyota GR86 SPIED for the First Time!

[wbradley]

Here it is:

[Lantanafrs2]

That's ugly. Glad I bought the first gen

[Red-86]

Originally Posted by gymratter

Why are they calling it an 86 ‘Celica’ in the vid title? Odd. On a related note, Toyota have renewed their trademark on the Celica name... which could just be them protecting the name, or could indicate a new model in the next few years. If so, sadly, more likely to be a crossover SUV monstrosity (as Mitsubishi did with the Eclipse Cross).

[Sasquachulator]

Originally Posted by Red-86

Why are they calling it an 86 ‘Celica’ in the vid title? Odd. On a related note, Toyota have renewed their trademark on the Celica name... which could just be them protecting the name, or could indicate a new model in the next few years. If so, sadly, more likely to be a crossover SUV monstrosity (as Mitsubishi did with the Eclipse Cross).

I dont think toyota would sully their Celica name as an SUV.
They've already got so many names and name variants from their more generic models.

-They have a Yaris cross which is a small yew gen yaris based crossover that doesnt look like a Yaris except on the inside.
-Theres a Corolla Cross which looks like a shrunken Rav4 with a Corolla interior.
-They have the CH-R which is a stylish Crossover wagon/hatch thing.
-Then theres the Rav4
-Theres the Venza
-Theres Highlander and a rumored larger Grand Highlander (based on a trademark filing)
-They have the Sequoia still i think.
-They also have Rav4, and the Land Cruiser.
-Not to mention other overseas models like Fortuner, Innova, etc.

They almost have the entire SUV/crossover space filled out with product.
Theres really no room for another SUV which they could name Celica....

Mitsubishi on the otherhand i think was desparate, as their product was becoming uncompetitive and becoming SUV only and they needed something to attract customers and probably hoped that the Eclipse name was enough to bring in some traffic.

[gymratter]

Originally Posted by Red-86

Why are they calling it an 86 ‘Celica’ in the vid title? Odd. On a related note, Toyota have renewed their trademark on the Celica name... which could just be them protecting the name, or could indicate a new model in the next few years. If so, sadly, more likely to be a crossover SUV monstrosity (as Mitsubishi did with the Eclipse Cross).

some of the fake news is thinking the second gen 86 will be renamed "Celica".

[mazeroni]

Originally Posted by gymratter

some of the fake news is thinking the second gen 86 will be renamed "Celica".

Using the Celica name would improve sales. I base that on nothing except my unscientific assumption that if I poll 100 people, at least 10% would say they recognize the name Celica in connection with a car, versus zero knowing what an 86 is. If I expand that to 1000, I think both of those numbers would hold true. Maybe at one million, I would have at least 1 person knowing what an 86 is.

[StE92ve]

Originally Posted by mazeroni

Using the Celica name would improve sales. I base that on nothing except my unscientific assumption that if I poll 100 people, at least 10% would say they recognize the name Celica in connection with a car, versus zero knowing what an 86 is. If I expand that to 1000, I think both of those numbers would hold true. Maybe at one million, I would have at least 1 person knowing what an 86 is.

Come on, I'm sure the 86 is as iconic as a 442 or a 98....

[soundman98]

when i tell people i have a brz, they say "a what?"

7 years later, and very few people still really know what it is.

[Cephas]

I had a guy ask me what my car was at a gas station. I told him it was a Toyota 86, and he looked very confused for about 30 seconds, then remarked how good it looked for a 35 year old car.

[wbradley]

Originally Posted by Cephas

I had a guy ask me what my car was at a gas station. I told him it was a Toyota 86, and he looked very confused for about 30 seconds, then remarked how good it looked for a 35 year old car.

THAT is funny!

Coulda been a Hachi Roku.

[Red-86]

Originally Posted by gymratter

some of the fake news is thinking the second gen 86 will be renamed "Celica".

I actually think that would be a pretty good idea from a marketing standpoint, as the Celica name would have more brand recognition than ‘86’ and it would once more mean Toyota has a ‘Supra’ and ‘Celica’ sports car lineup, like their halo sports car years of the 80s and 90s. But we already know the gen2 is called a ‘GR 86’ as Toyota already trademarked that name, so the fake news is clearly off in the weeds.

[gymratter]

Originally Posted by Red-86

I actually think that would be a pretty good idea from a marketing standpoint, as the Celica name would have more brand recognition than ‘86’ and it would once more mean Toyota has a ‘Supra’ and ‘Celica’ sports car lineup, like their halo sports car years of the 80s and 90s. But we already know the gen2 is called a ‘GR 86’ as Toyota already trademarked that name, so the fake news is clearly off in the weeds.

i remember they said the same thing about the 1st gen, that it was gonna be Celica in the states lol.. 86 vs Celica, idk. we shall see soon.

not saying its gonna happen with the 86, but it's not unheard of for Toyota to change the name of a model at the last min. the E210 debut in Europe as "Auris", but to only have Toyota changed it to "Corolla".

[Willpower]

Originally Posted by soundman98

when i tell people i have a brz, they say "a what?"

7 years later, and very few people still really know what it is.

Yep. I like that myself.

[gymratter]

another fake news speculation article.

https://www.carscoops.com/2021/01/to...-what-its-for/