CSG and RCE tag-team suspension Q&A thread! Ask us anything!

[oldlostcory]

Originally Posted by Yoshoobaroo

If your biggest complaint is turn in feel, rather than corner entry understeer, you'd probably be better off ditching the 9" steam rollers up front and get some sticky 215's instead.

Unless lap times are important to you, I don't see the need to over-tire the car for spirited drives and auto-x.

Not about lap times. I like the look of the 17x9 rpf1's, the car visually puts a huge smile on my face. I also don't know a ton about this stuff so I'm trying to learn. If I can improve the handling a bit while keeping the look I'd be happy.

For churchx, i'm running Dunlop ZIII's 245/40/17. At autox and the tail of the dragon I tend to lower the PSI down to 29-30ish.

Thanks again.

[Pat]

Originally Posted by strat61caster

Sounds like you want more front roll stiffness (which was probably relatively high in the old Honda) and aside from maybe front toe change you'll get what you want out of a stiffer front swaybar. Camber and steering rack bushings won't help the car take a set any quicker imho. RCE Yellows are too soft for competitive autox tires.

Dampers would be next on my hit list to tackle a lazy front end after toe and swaybar (assuming you plan on sticking with the RCE Yellows). Although still do the camber, your tires will thank you.

While I expect you're spot-on with your suggestions given his original post, I'm going to add something to it. Reading between the lines (and hesitantly making some assumptions), I'm guessing his desire to improve "initial turn in feel" isn't everything he's going for. I bet he wants more front end grip more than anything. If that's the case, I suggest changing the alignment so the front has 1* more camber than the rear.
Note: I'm typing this mainly because he said, "The only other car I've ever driven aggressively was my old integra back in the day." I don't think he has nearly the driving or suspension adjustment experiences as you do, strat61caster.

[Yoshoobaroo]

Originally Posted by oldlostcory

I like the look of the 17x9 rpf1's, the car visually puts a huge smile on my face.

I hear you there. The more narrow RPF1s have a weird looking face convexity. The 9” wide versions look much better.

[Pat]

Originally Posted by Yoshoobaroo

I hear you there. The more narrow RPF1s have a weird looking face convexity. The 9” wide versions look much better.

I totally agree. I can't think of another wheel that is so much this way. And stepping up to 18s is an even bigger difference.

[NoHaveMSG]

Originally Posted by oldlostcory

Not about lap times. I like the look of the 17x9 rpf1's, the car visually puts a huge smile on my face. I also don't know a ton about this stuff so I'm trying to learn. If I can improve the handling a bit while keeping the look I'd be happy.

For churchx, i'm running Dunlop ZIII's 245/40/17. At autox and the tail of the dragon I tend to lower the PSI down to 29-30ish.

Thanks again.

29-30 Cold?

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by Scracho

Hi guys!

I'm on my 4th 86 (Yes 4th) and have played with various suspension setups. I'm in the market for a $1500 street occasional track coilover and all roads have led me to a couple options.

IMO the largest improvement in ride/handling/lap times happen when you go from stock to DECENT coilover setup then from there unless you go to a full on pro setup the lap times aren't improving relative to cost from your decent "entry level" to medium tier coils. Thus the savings can be used for so many other items that will yield a faster, flatter and more enjoyable ride.

So that being said... CSG Tein Flex A OR RCE SS1????

I'd offer the counter viewpoint that a high end damper system that is set up well may not yield absolute lap times, but rather, yield relative lap times by giving the driver much more confidence in their vehicle.

With bias, my vote is CSG FLA + 17+ OEM rear sway bar

[Spacemane969]

Upgrading to FA500 coilovers from lowering springs this weekend. Given that the front coilovers have camber adjustment from the plates, can I just ditch the camber bolts that I've installed? Probably won't run more than -1.5 degrees.

[solidONE]

Originally Posted by Spacemane969

Upgrading to FA500 coilovers from lowering springs this weekend. Given that the front coilovers have camber adjustment from the plates, can I just ditch the camber bolts that I've installed? Probably won't run more than -1.5 degrees.

Why throw them away? If they can get it close using the bolts only, keep the plate at "0" when you do the alignment. Thank me later.

[BlueWhelan]

Originally Posted by Spacemane969

Upgrading to FA500 coilovers from lowering springs this weekend. Given that the front coilovers have camber adjustment from the plates, can I just ditch the camber bolts that I've installed? Probably won't run more than -1.5 degrees.

Might I suggest using both - make identical adjustments using the camber plates, then zero the settings in using the bolts. That way you keep the SAI identical side to side. Also, if you ever decide you want more camber you can easily do it.

[Spacemane969]

Originally Posted by solidONE

Why throw them away? If they can get it close using the bolts only, keep the plate at "0" when you do the alignment. Thank me later.

I just figured the more adjustable parts the more room for error.

[solidONE]

Originally Posted by Spacemane969

I just figured the more adjustable parts the more room for error.

Camber bolts keep their position. People have been beating on it with adjusted camber from eccentric bolts since 2012. Not an issue.

There is more room for error, but It's not hard when you have an alignment rack to set the alignment.

[WolfWings]

Any general thoughts on the best options to pair with those Chuhatsu MultiRoad lift springs?

[Racecomp Engineering]

I will use my stock 2016 struts at first with our RCE Rallyx springs, then Bilstein B6.

The TRD rally kit struts actually look pretty good if you can get them. The springs on that kit are just way too stiff and I'm not sure on cost/availability of the dampers alone. I'd still prefer the Bilsteins I think.

I plan on the Pedders camber/caster rubber top mounts.

I'm also thinking about the smaller/softer than stock Cusco swaybars. Definitely not necessary but could extra nice on dirt/gravel (and sacrifice a little bit on tarmac). I'm not sure that's a good idea with the Chuhatsu springs because those springs are a bit softer than our RCE RallyX springs especially up front.

Other than that....some bushings and the rear Cusco LCAs.

- Andrew

[WolfWings]

Yeah I still plan to get ya'alls setup once it's finalized, but with... *gestures at the world* ...delaying everything and dog these seemed a good holdover as I'm finding myself spending a lot of time off asphalt and some of the stores in my area that are staying the best stocked I'm having to play the 'Ferrari encounters a speed bump' game to get in/out of their parking lot.

Thank you kindly for the info, found the NJP site that sells the TRD 86 Rally kit offers just the dampers as an option.