2020 Toyota GR Supra Revealed! - Page 210 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

gymratter · 01-16-2021, 08:37 PM

^theres a huge thread on this over on our sister forum.

https://www.supramkv.com/threads/a91...s-locked.6464/

PulsarBeeerz · 01-16-2021, 10:30 PM

Looks like the A91 ECUs have been cracked now. The a91s base line higher like the MY17 vs MY13 but they both make the same power tuned.

vh_supra26 · 01-21-2021, 01:03 AM

gymratter · 01-21-2021, 02:59 PM

JesseG · 01-21-2021, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordanwolf

Man Supra hype died so hard.

If the new Supra had a bada$$ Toyota derived inline 6 twin turbo motor, I think we would see crazy amounts of excitement. It’s the whole BMW’ness of it that is bringing it down. It’s a shame, because it could have been another legendary car.
That being said, I think they look amazing in person, and I really want one. You still get a terrific inline 6 engine. I mean heck, the McClaren F1 had a BMW heart.

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Red-86 · 01-21-2021, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by JesseG

If the new Supra had a bada$$ Toyota derived inline 6 twin turbo motor, I think we would see crazy amounts of excitement.

Even if it had a 100% Toyota V6TT I reckon it would see more excitement. People wanted the 'JDM' legend to live on.

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It’s the whole BMW’ness of it that is bringing it down. It’s a shame, because it could have been another legendary car.

Yep, people wanted a new JDM legend and they got... a very competent and very quick sports car with an identity crisis.

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That being said, I think they look amazing in person, and I really want one. You still get a terrific inline 6 engine.

I'm still on the fence about the new Supra. I wouldn't say no to one if you gave me the keys for free, but I haven't warmed to the styling or the 'BMWness' of the underpinnings. Dunno, maybe I just need to drive one to change my mind.

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I mean heck, the McClaren F1 had a BMW heart.

In fairness, the S70/2 V12 used in the F1 was a substantially redesigned version of the stock BMW M70 engine. The S70/2 had more displacement, was DOHC vs SOHC, revved higher, and had much more peak power than the regular variants in BMW vehicles. By contrast, the B58 in the Supra is basically the same one as in the Z4 and a few other BMW models. Still a great engine, but not as special - but then, the Supra is a sportscar, not a supercar, so we can forgive it.

Red-86 · 01-21-2021, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by vh_supra26

My first thought is, even adding all these sales together, it's amazing we still have sportscars given these small volumes (just compare these numbers to a popular SUV, Crossover or Truck for example). Don't get me wrong, I'm grateful these sportscars still exist, but yeah, must be a tough sell to the company accountants when it is time to develop a new sportscar.

My second thought is surprise that the ageing 370Z isn't far behind the brand new Z4 in sales. 11+ year old car vs a new one. Interesting. Looking forward to seeing if the 400Z can claw back some sales on the Supra.

beltax90 · 01-22-2021, 05:44 AM

beltax90 · 01-23-2021, 02:24 AM

LancePower · 01-23-2021, 02:41 AM

^^^^

I don't speak Spanish, but seemed there was something he didn't like about the Supra.

soundman98 · 01-23-2021, 10:01 AM

those are some very oddly modded cars. carbon fiber panels wherever they could, and then the 86 has the aftermarket anodized hvac rings...

beltax90 · 01-24-2021, 12:01 PM

Kiske · 01-24-2021, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by soundman98

those are some very oddly modded cars. carbon fiber panels wherever they could, and then the 86 has the aftermarket anodized hvac rings...

Can you blame em? Non dual-climate equipped early gen 1 cars look pretty ugly.

Ultramaroon · 01-24-2021, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiske

Can you blame em? Non dual-climate equipped early gen 1 cars look pretty ugly.

You meant to say "minimalist and functional," right?

NVM the cars. I want that sweet floor jack.

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