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Gost · 03-17-2013, 03:16 PM

interesting inputs. definitely appreciate it, especially since I saw no posts at all supporting it. lol. Anyway, I opted out of the program before i made the posts, I just wanted to see what other opinions were on this. I was reading through the terms and I saw the legal aspect of it and allowing it to be used in legal disputes, and I'm like "screw this" and hit decline. Glad I did.

carbonBLUE · 03-18-2013, 09:35 AM

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These things have/will have SoC's built into them with accelerometers, GPS, cellular and GOD knows what other IC's or integration. None of this benefits you as the driver.

The purpose of the corporation (sole purpose) is to increase profits for its stakeholders at any/anybody's expense. This device is meant to increase profit by taking advantage of the human being's animalistic nature. They know you will drive aggressively, forgot to slow down, brake hard, experience road rage, etc. They are counting on it to happen (calculated behavior actually), with the punishment being higher rates for you. The only winners are the stakeholders in increased profits. This system is designed to fuck the consumer.

this is why you build classic cars, WTF is OBD?

tech4pdx · 03-18-2013, 12:03 PM

OBD = On-Board Diagnostics. The OBD access port is just above your shins, under the dash, when you are sitting in the driver's seat. That is where you normally interface with the computer (ECU) when logging data, flashing, troubleshooting, etc.

carbonBLUE · 03-18-2013, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by tech4pdx

OBD = On-Board Diagnostics. The OBD access port is just above your shins, under the dash, when you are sitting in the driver's seat. That is where you normally interface with the computer (ECU) when logging data, flashing, troubleshooting, etc.

it was a joke... lol classic cars dont have OBD, 2 allstate needs a OBD plug in for it to work, 3 no OBD mean they cant do it even if they make it mandatory

rice_classic · 03-18-2013, 02:39 PM

Everyone should avoid this. Your insurance companies are thinking big picture with an eventuality of ubiquity insomuch they could write a bill that would mandate devices like this.

Google, Facebook, Progressive Snapshot, Drivewise... Sheeze.. George Orwell must be rolling in his grave right now.

tech4pdx · 03-18-2013, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by carbonBLUE

it was a joke... lol classic cars dont have OBD, 2 allstate needs a OBD plug in for it to work, 3 no OBD mean they cant do it even if they make it mandatory

haha.. sorry

internet without body language sucks

bestwheelbase · 03-18-2013, 07:00 PM

Okay, now that we have unanimously agreed that these black boxes are no good for our hooning tendencies (and @Rampage did so in a particularly poet way), my question is this:

Aren't these prevalent in the UK and elsewhere abroad? Just curious if some of our members outside USA have experience with this stuff.

Zgrinch · 03-18-2013, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by carbonBLUE

it was a joke... lol classic cars dont have OBD, 2 allstate needs a OBD plug in for it to work, 3 no OBD mean they cant do it even if they make it mandatory

Dumb question...but could they require you to add one to a classic car, or they come up with some similar device that would retro fit a classic car?

#87 · 03-18-2013, 07:27 PM

Put one in a do some drifting and top speed runs, report back

TouchMyHonda · 03-18-2013, 07:40 PM

It's big brother. They can use it to raise your rates too. If you take more left turns than right it's considered more risky and they will raise your rates as just ONE example. Fuck that shit yo.

carbonBLUE · 03-18-2013, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Zgrinch

Dumb question...but could they require you to add one to a classic car, or they come up with some similar device that would retro fit a classic car?

Yes they can, then we use gps to our advantage and spell out "FUCK YOU" in a parking lot, that should get the msg out pretty clearly to the insurance companies, also i would be buying multiple ecus for track duty so they can't track me

Zgrinch · 03-18-2013, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by carbonBLUE

Yes they can, then we use gps to our advantage and spell out "FUCK YOU" in a parking lot, that should get the msg out pretty clearly to the insurance companies, also i would be buying multiple ecus for track duty so they can't track me

Yea the after market for "tricking" the system will be huge.
I can see my "tracked" ECU sitting on the garage bench plugged into an outlet right now....

tech4pdx · 03-18-2013, 08:43 PM

Oh wow.. You guys are clever with the multiple ECU thing.. Haha

track_warrior · 03-18-2013, 09:42 PM

Fucking Flo from progressive started it all. Damn slut.

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tech4pdx Make love Join Date: Nov 2012 Drives: H8R.. Not really Location: Edge of the Milky Way Posts: 780 Thanks: 524 Thanked 214 Times in 143 Posts Mentioned: 31 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	OBD = On-Board Diagnostics. The OBD access port is just above your shins, under the dash, when you are sitting in the driver's seat. That is where you normally interface with the computer (ECU) when logging data, flashing, troubleshooting, etc.

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bestwheelbase Join Date: Nov 2011 Drives: 1985 P-Type Location: Nashville, TN, USA Posts: 3,710 Thanks: 3,273 Thanked 2,058 Times in 1,098 Posts Mentioned: 50 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	Okay, now that we have unanimously agreed that these black boxes are no good for our hooning tendencies (and @Rampage did so in a particularly poet way), my question is this: Aren't these prevalent in the UK and elsewhere abroad? Just curious if some of our members outside USA have experience with this stuff.

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#87 I usually post drunk Join Date: Oct 2009 Drives: BRZ Location: NY Posts: 1,487 Thanks: 15 Thanked 490 Times in 231 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Put one in a do some drifting and top speed runs, report back

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