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Old 09-12-2016, 01:17 PM   #43
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I know there was some speculation about the white. As far as I can tell, the 86 "Halo" is the same as the '13 "Whiteout". Dealer said there have been some improvements to the paint as well. Time will tell.
Oh yes, the "improvement" was changing the name from "whiteout" ......

I still think that is an unattractive name for a paint color .....


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Old 09-12-2016, 02:34 PM   #44
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I'm of the opinion that... if you think the car is in dire need of more power, you're probably driving it wrong.
Maybe but nothing is as sexy as this car. I love the car because reminds me of yesteryears sports cars. Also I don't think I'll find anything that handles like my FRS, still though they should boost it to at least 250. I thought about a 370 but from the videos I am not impressed so that leaves me with corvette, cayman or mustang. I have to have a performance car in the stable as I've had for 16 years. I could ride out my extended waranty, order a new engine have it built and boosted, but then who knows what will change by then
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Old 09-12-2016, 02:46 PM   #45
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I'm of the opinion that... if you think the car is in dire need of more power, you're probably driving it wrong.
Sort of like going into a bar at night and announcing that you are the toughest guy in the bar ....... no matter how good of shape you're in ..... there is a good chance that there is someone in there will beat the hell out of you .....


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Old 09-13-2016, 03:12 AM   #46
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I love the car because reminds me of yesteryears sports cars.
Sports cars of yesteryears had 98 hp at most.
But yeah...

I gots mine. It'll do nicely.
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Lol Halo is Halo whiteout is whiteout, the car hasn't been SWP (whiteout) Since 2014,It's CWP (Halo)from 2015 no changes, don't let them fool you around just because the name changed. There's not even that much changes from CWP and SWP cleaner white less creamy more flakes that's it. Don't believe me? Check your paint code.

Goodness things they would tell you just to make a sale :/
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Oh yes, the "improvement" was changing the name from "whiteout" ......
I still think that is an unattractive name for a paint color .....
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I'm no auto paint expert, but it looks better, and the clearcoat seems thicker. Don't care either way, though.
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Lol Halo is Halo whiteout is whiteout, the car hasn't been SWP (whiteout) Since 2014,It's CWP (Halo)from 2015 no changes, don't let them fool you around just because the name changed. There's not even that much changes from CWP and SWP cleaner white less creamy more flakes that's it. Don't believe me? Check your paint code.

Goodness things they would tell you just to make a sale :/
I had a '13, so I know what Whiteout is. Halo does seem to have more flakes. The state of the paint was mentioned in passing, not as a selling point. They have also seemd to fix the slight color miss-match from metal to plastic. Not all cars had that, but mine did.

I'm starting to regret posting about my new car. The dealer had nothing to do with the "sale", other than being the money-changer and paper-pusher. I walked in and said "manual, white, lower payment" and talked cars and Top Gear with my "salesman" for a while. The only "work" he had to do walk to the printer.
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Oh yes, the "improvement" was changing the name from "whiteout" ......

I still think that is an unattractive name for a paint color .....


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I call it "White Privilege".
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Old 09-13-2016, 11:56 AM   #51
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The 86 does feel like it has more HP and torque, how many I don't know. Any third-party dyno runs out there? It feels like an OFT-tuned FR-S right off the lot.
I don't know what video I was watching, (maybe someone else knows the video im referring to) but someone affiliated with subaru claims the power gain is more of the magnitude of 15-20whp and the 5hp claim is just the advertised gain. They supposedly brought the real world numbers closer to spec.


Edit - Apparently I got this idea from this video [ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcAw3apQwQM"]Moto San's impression on the 2017 Series.Yellow BRZ - YouTube[/ame]

around the 1:20 mark. I'm not familiar with the person speaking so I don't know how much weight this holds.. anyone else want to chime in?

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I don't know what video I was watching, (maybe someone else knows the video im referring to) but someone affiliated with subaru claims the power gain is more of the magnitude of 15-20whp and the 5hp claim is just the advertised gain. They supposedly brought the real world numbers closer to spec.


Edit - Apparently I got this idea from this video


around the 1:20 mark. I'm not familiar with the person speaking so I don't know how much weight this holds.. anyone else want to chime in?
Yeah, I think the five HP claim is low.
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I had a '13, so I know what Whiteout is. Halo does seem to have more flakes. The state of the paint was mentioned in passing, not as a selling point. They have also seemd to fix the slight color miss-match from metal to plastic. Not all cars had that, but mine did.

I'm starting to regret posting about my new car. The dealer had nothing to do with the "sale", other than being the money-changer and paper-pusher. I walked in and said "manual, white, lower payment" and talked cars and Top Gear with my "salesman" for a while. The only "work" he had to do walk to the printer.
Sorry if I offended you in your transaction for your car. Congratulations, enjoy.
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Old 09-13-2016, 01:11 PM   #54
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Congrats on the 2017 purchase now go get that new car a ceramic coating. Find a good detail shop and get Optimum Opticoat ceramic coating. Gloss Coat is the newest ceramic coating or get Opticoat Pro. Better yet get a clear bra done before Opticoat. Opticoat best damn $400.00 I spent on my car. You'll see those nice flakes on your car and washing the car will be so much easier. Just my 2 cents! Oh and buy a nice sounding exhaust. You're in Oregon so Perrin would be a good choice!
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20HP is a more suitable number than 5. I wouldn't even advertise 5hp.
Whats the point in the scalloped bumper? It would look way better if those weren't there and it just flowed straight across
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