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Old 09-07-2022, 11:58 AM   #15
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Actually, this is old news. From April

https://toyotatimes.jp/en/report/hpe..._2022/001.html



No bulge required. Just an interesting thing.

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That makes far more sense.
The whole "interview" and discussion about possible production is likely bullshit.
As soon as a car site ends in .AU you can pretty much rest assured that the bulk of any article will be fiction.
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Old 09-07-2022, 04:15 PM   #16
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This, along with 9"W rear tires would be a great combo provided the tranny and chassis handle it without issue, which they most likely do. If it fits without a power bulge, even more so.
Unfortunately that engine probably cost as much as the car to buy in a crate, if it was possible to obtain one other than for warranty replacement.
I experienced driving a 3 cyl turbo car as far back as 1987, when I worked for Toronto's oldest Chevy dealer. That was the Chevy Sprint turbo, made by Suzuki.
That dealership and the little office I had gave me the creeps. In the 90's they demolished the building for development and the remains of a missing woman were discovered in the foundation. Apparently killed by her jealous husband back in 1947 after a night of flirting at the local tavern. Case was never solved, he continued to raise their kids on his own, probably after having murdered their mom.
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Old 09-07-2022, 04:48 PM   #17
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Why wouldn't they just use a yaris?
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Why wouldn't they just use a yaris?
Different racing class
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I'm not traditionally a turbo fan, but a shift to a small displacement triple makes a whole lot of sense going forwards (regardless of where they're at with synthetic fuels). Emissions regs and the threat of rising fuel prices are going to make inefficient (and heavy) boxers unviable sooner rather than later - a move to a 1.6 turbo fits in perfectly with where ICE vehicles are headed. I've spent time with a GR Yaris, and this combo would make for a seriously compelling package. An agile, FR coupe with a smooth, torquey, efficient engine that's happy to lug around under 2.5k rpm in city traffic - that's a future I could get excited for.
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I think the article is bullshit. The only reason to do this would be to compare gasket sealer.
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Old 09-07-2022, 07:57 PM   #21
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The total lack of any pictures of this alleged engine swap is sort of telling really.
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Sorry I meant in the click bait write up. As said all they had were some pics they pulled off the internet and that makes me doubt their validity. They couldn’t even go to the trouble of finding these!
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Sorry I meant in the click bait write up. As said all they had were some pics they pulled off the internet and that makes me doubt their validity. They couldn’t even go to the trouble of finding these!
Totally get the skepticism, but to clarify this, they've used pics that were provided to all outlets from the GR86 pre-launch event at Sydney Motorsport Park in May (the car still hasn't launched here). They're not going to be trawling Facebook to then publish images that they don't have the rights to.
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Totally get the skepticism, but to clarify this, they've used pics that were provided to all outlets from the GR86 pre-launch event at Sydney Motorsport Park in May (the car still hasn't launched here). They're not going to be trawling Facebook to then publish images that they don't have the rights to.
The article is written in a manner that implies those are the car.

I am not doubting the engine or race team but their supposed interview that indicates there is "hope" it will be a production car. Especially since this was breaking news 5 months ago but nobody ran with it then.

Still waiting for the even more farfetched "we have heard that..." from the other clickbaits.
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The article is written in a manner that implies those are the car.
Sure, but they're a general car website - they get info that's interesting/ publishable regarding the GR86, then add a thumbnail from the most recent pics they have on file (from the event they attended.) I think it's a bit of a long bow to suggest they're randomly posting pics off the internet and deliberately trying to mislead people with them. Engine articles need a pic - just like "new model" articles often include a pic of the current model.

I also doubt that the direct quotes from Sakamoto are fictionalised despite the desire for clicks.

When asked if the turbocharged engine found in the GR Corolla could slot into the GR 86, Toyota Gazoo Racing’s chief engineer Naoyuki Sakamoto said: "Yes, we are thinking for the future about the possibility of using it, but there are no concrete plans at the moment."

Maybe we should have a chat to John
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It they can somehow get it to fit under the low hoodline that would be a hoot.
With (or maybe even without) subframe modification it shouldn't be an issue. Many folks are stuffing K24s into their 86s these days and they all somehow fit.
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With (or maybe even without) subframe modification it shouldn't be an issue. Many folks are stuffing K24s into their 86s these days and they all somehow fit.
For sure they don't have the 4" clearance between the top of the engine and the hood as required in many large markets for pedestrian safety.
As a workaround, for example the MX-5 has pyrotechnic cartridges to cause the hood to pop up at the cowl in the event of a detected impending frontal contact at speed.

Regards to those pictures above, I can tell just by looking that those guys are performing a cricket inspection.
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