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Old 01-14-2020, 01:34 PM   #43
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There's no way they will make a high-power turbo 86... they have to keep it relatively slow as to not upstage the Supra
Nah, now we're confusing demographics. Also a turbo 86 would still be slow.

250-260hp for $30K with 235 tires and a Toyota-sourced 8 speed auto would put a hypothetical GR86 at 3000+ pounds, a 0-60 around 5-5.5, and the quarter at 100 mph and 14 seconds.

I'm not sure how well the FA-24 tunes, but to keep cost down they would likely pull it off the same line as the Ascent and with few or no changes. I can't imagine you would even get close to the capabilities of the B58, even if you rebuilt the FA24.
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We're all wrong. It's going to be front wheel drive, but literally just the left front wheel (there's more weight where the driver sits = better traction)
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Old 01-14-2020, 02:16 PM   #45
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I don't care if the renderings are similar to the Supra. They look good, and would appear to not have any flagrantly fake air vents, which is key IMO.
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And it will handle perpendicular flying objects better than the Tesla Cybertruck.

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I’m just gonna start saving up for one of these



https://www.tesla.com/roadster
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Pretty sure the 2nd Gen 86 / BRZ development is much further along than we all think, bet we'll see it fall of 2021 as a 2022.
What evidence do you base that on?

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Subaru is an expert of hiding development and Toyota is pretty good as well.
Except for the MkV Supra, which had to be one of the longest, most drawn out developments Iíve ever seen. Literally years on years worth of speculation and camo wrapped cars all over the internet.
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I think you misplaced your decimal point on this one....
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If you collect up all these types of articles and them look back at them in a couple of years, there is a good chance that none of them will have been right -


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No one seriously believes the turbo FA24 255 hp rumors right?

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Devil's advocate here: Engineering cost is at an all time high. There's huge financial benefits to utilizing a powertrain that has already been developed, tested, and certified. This is why I'm skeptical about them getting some one-off NA FA24 that everyone keeps talking about.

Disclosure: Part of this opinion is based off of years of experience in the automotive engineering world with both OEM's and suppliers, the other part of the opinion is based off of pure hope/dreams of grandeur of a factory turbocharged GT86.
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Devil's advocate here: Engineering cost is at an all time high. There's huge financial benefits to utilizing a powertrain that has already been developed, tested, and certified. This is why I'm skeptical about them getting some one-off NA FA24 that everyone keeps talking about.

Disclosure: Part of this opinion is based off of years of experience in the automotive engineering world with both OEM's and suppliers, the other part of the opinion is based off of pure hope/dreams of grandeur of a factory turbocharged GT86.
To be fair the current FA20D is a one off as well.
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To be fair the current FA20D is a one off as well.
That's true, but it must be noted that a lot has changed since 2013 in the engineering world. All I'm saying is that we should not underestimate how much value reusing engines from other platforms within the same company holds in the year 2020.
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The current 86 is in partnership with Subaru, who produces the engines and cars on their old chassis. In light of this, will Toyota continue their partnership with Subaru? I don't know. If they do then will Subaru still produce the car or is it even possible? The rumor is that the 86 will move to Toyota's New Global Architecture (TNGA) because Subaru no longer has a RWD architecture. If it does move to TNGA then can Subaru build that chassis on their lines? Would a boxer engine even fit in that architecture? I don't know.
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The current 86 is in partnership with Subaru, who produces the engines and cars on their old chassis. In light of this, will Toyota continue their partnership with Subaru? I don't know.
That has already been confirmed (see the front page of FT86club.com for reference to an article on it)
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That has already been confirmed (see the front page of FT86club.com for reference to an article on it)
I donít see it. I only have access to the BRZ Forum. I donít know how to change it. Link?
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