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Old 06-26-2014, 06:36 PM   #1
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Clutch scraping noise

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I'm new here and have searched for quite a while to find this noise but I can't find anything that's been posted.

I have a 2014 FR-S 6MT and it only has about 850 miles on it so far. Every time I push the clutch in to shift a gear at a normal RPM (3-3.5k), I hear a grinding, almost vibration noise and it only lasts about a second until the clutch hits the floor. I took it to Toyota and they swear it is absolutely normal. However, I'm not entirely convinced.

Interesting side note: it will not do it in neutral, the clutch is completely silent unless there's some sort of load on the transmission.

Any thoughts at all? Is it normal??
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Old 06-26-2014, 07:01 PM   #2
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Does it happen if you completely let go of the gas pedal before pressing on the clutch?

I experienced a similar problem when I first got this car because I wasn't used to the high catch point of the clutch so I still had a little bit of throttle input before the clutch was fully depressed. That caused the clutch to slip for a split second during shifts
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Old 06-26-2014, 07:03 PM   #3
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Did it make the exact same noise? I've tried everything but lifting off completely before shifting sure does make for a rough shift. But yes, since there isn't any load on it, it doesn't make the same noise... But who shifts like that? This is my 5th manual car and I've never experienced this
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Before you shift into the next gear make sure the clutch is completely down on the floor then put it into the next gear.
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Old 06-26-2014, 11:29 PM   #5
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I'm having this rattle when I put in neutral coasting up to a light, I went back to the dealer and of course it didn't do it when the tech was with me. My FR-S only has 450 miles, like yourself have had many manual cars. I'm finding this car a bit weird to drive at the moment lol hopefully I can get the shifts more smooth.
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Before you shift into the next gear make sure the clutch is completely down on the floor then put it into the next gear.

I couldn't imagine driving a manual where I had to floor the clutch for every gear change...as it is now I've never used more than the top 1/3 of the clutch travel when shifting in every manual I've ever driven.

Putting it to the floor every gear would result in a very awkward shift.
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Old 06-27-2014, 06:22 PM   #7
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I always put the clutch to the floor. Like I said, my problem isn't the shifter, it's the actual clutch making noise. I wish I knew if it was normal or not.
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Seems to be pretty normal to me. Does this happen under 2k RPM? If so, I believe it's the common flywheel rattle a lot of people hear.

Try starting in 2nd gear a couple times, slip the clutch slowly as you build revs. You should be able to reproduce the "rattle/grinding" sound you're speaking about. If that's the case, I think you're alright.
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I see what you mean, but this noise is coming from the clutch itself only when pressing it down with load on it. If I let the gas go completely before beginning the clutch pedal's journey down, there's no noise. I guess the engagement point is just so high?
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This thread might help:

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No, that's not it actually. This is simply a clutch noise upon up shifting.
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No, that's not it actually. This is simply a clutch noise upon up shifting.

Well unless you get a video I think you've exhausted our knowledge.

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I'll try to get a video. Thank you for your help nevertheless!
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for mine it almost sounds like a horn, dont know what it is and i havn't got it checked out cuz my car is running fine at 38kmiles now

edit: it doesn't happen all the time, and it has happened from a cold start and when the engine is warm
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