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11-18-2018, 12:04 PM | #29 | |
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If so what so bad in that that i might want to shut it off? Plus if its electronic diff(like e lsd) why is it neccesary on a car that already has a mechanic lsd? Sent from my SM-G960F using Tapatalk |
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11-18-2018, 12:06 PM | #30 | |
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When on hard pavement, like tarmac or ice, you can get more grip w/o wheel spin on acceleration or complete lock when braking (and also to not get bald patching on tires due locked wheel braking). Also on dry tarmac grip falls off a lot after slip. Hence sometimes in rally there are situations to not use even ABS. |
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Well as long as the pedal dance finish the nannies shift its all good.
Dont want any computer to touch and help my driving ! Sent from my SM-G960F using Tapatalk |
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The way it intervenes with the long press is more subtle. I wouldn't mind the e-diff if there was a way to enable/disable it on the fly. I might even choose to use it.
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I don't remember when or where the term became popular but it's misleading. It's no more than a specific application of the EBFD. When the computer detects single wheel spin in the rear end it knows that a wheel has loosened enough for the torsen to let go. It feathers the brake on the loose wheel to bring it back under control. You can feel it go "GRRRRRR."
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I had several 180deg spins already Sent from my SM-G960F using Tapatalk |
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Unrelated to the diff. Spins happen when you have too much speed for the corner and the preponderance of traction is up front (and you don't use that traction and carry it as a drift). Once both rear wheels are loose, there's nothing EBD can do to fix it.
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I'm referring to one rear wheel spinning as if on a frozen puddle, which is actually one of the reasons it can be handy.
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Cool how rwd is a conpletely different world compared to fwd .
Its kinda sucks to drive this car and once you think you get it you realize that the full off isnt fully off and now your not sure if its the car that fixed you or its just you as a driver. Well that to be seen soon I hate computers @CARS!! Sent from my SM-G960F using Tapatalk |
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Better leave driving with no nannies to track, where due repeated lapping one learns track/grip/specifics much better and can experiment with learning limits, where it's controlled environment with specific rules, not someone from opposite direction lane weering off on yours, where if done mistake, it costs less (eg. sliding on grass after spin off the track vs hitting kerb/concrete wall/other car on public roads). Hence my own choice is to drive with VSC sport on public roads, and pedal dance for track. And even on track, on rainy days i sometimes choose drive with VSC sport mode, especially if i don't know that track well. BTW, one can also use triggering of nannies as indicator, that one drives wrong . Eg. - learning treshold braking with ABS triggering as indicator that one braking too hard for given grip, or SC indicating that one gone into curve too fast or driving inputs were wrong or not smooth enough for given turn/grip, resulting in spin that nanny needed to correct and so on .. |
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Well spoken Me personally when im.on track i rather take off all the nannies and slowdown if require than driving fast with nannies. Sent from my SM-G960F using Tapatalk |
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'No LSD?????' all I see each time this thread appears..
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yes, FWD is completely different from RWD, but I'm not sure how much different for any of the stuff we're talking about here. As for sucking...Not really? Between pedal dance or just plain 3 second off, there's very little happening to 'correct' - one or the other is likely to work better for you, and except for hard-core drifting should be all you need. If you really want everything (including ABS) off, find yourself an 86nanny with the ABS feature. FWIW, I was locking up the wheel with ABS off where I was hitting ice mode with just pedal dance (not really surprising, it's reacting to what is effectively complete lack of traction in one wheel) and had no particular troubles with just the 3 second press in the same spot. The 'interference' here is still significantly less obvious than the 17+ 'Track mode' which let me do some pretty crazy stuff, but still made itself very obvious. YMMV.
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The abs can be turned off by taking out its fuse?
Tbh the abs is the last nanny that bothers me.. I barely gets it on -i learn how to drive the car without getting into the abs . Sent from my SM-G960F using Tapatalk |
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