GR 86: Orders /Reservation /Waitlist Chat

[Lelandjt]

Originally Posted by fredzy

EVERY CAR IS HARD TO FIND RIGHT NOW, QUIT CRYING YOU ENTITLED BABY

Hard to find is one thing. Having no way of knowing if they'll ever be able to sell me a car after being one of the first people to put my name on the "list" when it opened is an example of a poorly run business that turns prospective customers into haters. That was the point of my post. Toyota has managed to make me a person who will never buy a Toyota.

[Lelandjt]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

They are! People are waiting two years for appliance vehicles.
Over 13,000 people managed to get one. Because a handful of individuals have not yet does not mean the system is broken.

Their inability to provide any kind of ETA or even a promise that at some point it will be delivered is the example that their system is broken.

[Dadhawk]

Originally Posted by Lelandjt

Their inability to provide any kind of ETA or even a promise that at some point it will be delivered is the example that their system is broken.

This isn't unique to Toyota. Even the OEMs that give you a date are likely wrong. You think this is bad, try the EV market sometime. Even the all mighty Tesla struggles with delivery dates.

[Rustyoid]

Originally Posted by Lelandjt

Toyota pricing wasn't announced until Nov '21 and dealers wouldn't take anything until then. Where do you get the idea that someone got a car in '21? It was very late Winter or even Spring '22 before anyone received a GR86.

First few GRs arrived in USA/Canada late Nov and into Dec 2021. Wasn't many. Then more trickled in through Jan/feb/march. Majority arrived april-june.

Canadian dealers wereable to place requests Aug 1st 2021.

just fyi

[Sasquachulator]

i dont know how anyone can realistically stay on track with the 2030+ ICE phaseouts with all these shortages and backlogs still happening.

Everything's delayed by about 2 or so years, so the ICE phaseouts should also be delayed by that same 2 or so years.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Lelandjt

Toyota pricing wasn't announced until Nov '21 and dealers wouldn't take anything until then. Where do you get the idea that someone got a car in '21? It was very late Winter or even Spring '22 before anyone received a GR86.

The sales numbers are a matter of record and easily found with a 30 second search. There were not a pile sold in 20121 but they were indeed sold.

Originally Posted by Lelandjt

They're big because they sell a lot of Tacomas and Rav4s to people who stumble onto car lots. They are not very successful at catering to the enthusiast market.

They sell many more cars than Tacoma's and Rav4s and have dedicated buyers that will buy nothing but Toyotas. The "enthusiasts" you speak of make up under 1% of their sales.

Originally Posted by Lelandjt

Their inability to provide any kind of ETA or even a promise that at some point it will be delivered is the example that their system is broken.

Neither can almost any manufacturer right now. Do you live in a cave or just disbelieve all the news?

[RaceAddict]

Originally Posted by Lelandjt

Toyota pricing wasn't announced until Nov '21 and dealers wouldn't take anything until then. Where do you get the idea that someone got a car in '21? It was very late Winter or even Spring '22 before anyone received a GR86.

First production (for North America), according to Toyota documentation, was November 11th, 2021. Japan had them on dealer lots well ahead of us.

Earliest photographic evidence I've personally seen on a non-mfg plated car is Jan 10th, 2022.

[KongolQc]

Originally Posted by RaceAddict

First production (for North America), according to Toyota documentation, was November 11th, 2021. Japan had them on dealer lots well ahead of us.

Earliest photographic evidence I've personally seen on a non-mfg plated car is Jan 10th, 2022.

You may know Montrealracing.com

First BRZ as been seen in november.
First GR86 in this forum is january 4th. I dont think it's the first one in quebec but one of the first for sure.

[RaceAddict]

Originally Posted by KongolQc

You may know Montrealracing.com

First BRZ as been seen in november.
First GR86 in this forum is january 4th. I dont think it's the first one in quebec but one of the first for sure.

I'd heard the BRZ got out ahead of the 86, but wasn't sure. Personally I saw a BRZ at the local dealer, and even one around my neighborhood well before I ever saw an 86 in person. Since I ordered my car in March of last year I've only seen one GR86 on the roads... a Neptune on the 640 a few times (before winter arrived), as well as 2 at dealers.

Also, saw this article this aft: https://driving.ca/column/driving-by...es-canada-2022

713 GR86s sold in Canada in 2022. (838% increase over 2021, meaning about 75 sold in '21)
632 BRZ sold in Canada in 2022. (42% increase over 2021, meaning about 450 sold in '21)

[KongolQc]

Originally Posted by RaceAddict

I'd heard the BRZ got out ahead of the 86, but wasn't sure. Personally I saw a BRZ at the local dealer, and even one around my neighborhood well before I ever saw an 86 in person. Since I ordered my car in March of last year I've only seen one GR86 on the roads... a Neptune on the 640 a few times (before winter arrived), as well as 2 at dealers.

Also, saw this article this aft: https://driving.ca/column/driving-by...es-canada-2022

713 GR86s sold in Canada in 2022. (838% increase over 2021, meaning about 75 sold in '21)
632 BRZ sold in Canada in 2022. (42% increase over 2021, meaning about 450 sold in '21)

I saw only one and it was at 640/40 toyota in the lot with the wraping on it still. Saw it when driving on the 40 the morning.

Never saw any GR or BRZ on the road... I feel lonely ...

[miatascooter]

Dealer texted me today that my 10AE is in “Freight Status” and should be here by 2/15. Getting nervous about them trying to tack on a $5,000 markup even though I was told MSRP when I ordered it.

[fredzy]

Originally Posted by miatascooter

Dealer texted me today that my 10AE is in “Freight Status” and should be here by 2/15. Getting nervous about them trying to tack on a $5,000 markup even though I was told MSRP when I ordered it.

At some point soon, you'll get an ETA range like "from Feb 10th to Feb 20th." Once you're within a week or so of the "from" date, tell your salesman its time to sit down and iron out the numbers. Better to find out sooner than later.

[OkieSnuffBox]

Originally Posted by miatascooter

Dealer texted me today that my 10AE is in “Freight Status” and should be here by 2/15. Getting nervous about them trying to tack on a $5,000 markup even though I was told MSRP when I ordered it.

I thought I saw in one of the Facebook pages a dealer with an auto 10AE they will be selling at MSRP. But with their doc fee, it still puts the car at nearly $38k.

Which, it just bonkers.

[Locust]

Originally Posted by McMCOO

For anyone trying to use that broken API tool, the data is still accessible if you use https://guest.dealer.toyota.com/v-sp...VINHERE/detail. Someone on gr86dotorg posted the workaround:

Put your VIN in the URL above using a full-function web browser on a PC. Once the page loads, pull down the menu of the browser and click developer tools. From there, click the network tab. Do a CTRL-R to refresh and record the incoming data. Scroll the left pane to where you see two items starting with your VIN. Select the preview tab.

Does this still work?