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70NYD · 01-20-2011, 01:45 AM

hi i dunno if this has been mentioned or not already, and it is slightly confusing to me since i used google translate to read it (cant read french) but it seems to me that some of the hybrid sports car rumors COULD be stemming from the GRMN (i think something was lost in translation but)
http://translate.google.com.au/trans...oncept-12.html

here is the original site (in french)
http://www.leblogauto.com/2011/01/ex...oncept-12.html

there is also a mr2 there but seriously, something was lost in translation for me..

what do you all think?
also if someone that can read french could shed some light on this article
sorry if its a repost, but its dated 11-01-12

Dimman · 01-20-2011, 01:55 AM

Looks like just a blog about a press event. I had to do with some recent concepts, a ride along in an LFA, and test driving the Gazoo iQ. The MR2/S hybrid was just there cause it was a recent concept.

Edit: Shit, 2 pages... just a minute...

Page 2: They test drove the MR2/S hybrid. It was a pet project of Naruse. Basics are it's a Rx400h powertrain (3.3l V6 with Hybrid system and a CVT), goes 0-100km/h in 4.5 seconds without the 'savagery' of a GT-R (motor sounds boring). More exciting in the corners, very balanced but still feels a bit heavy. They understand why Toyota wants to share the experience. 'It undeniably validates the sports hybrid concept.' But they can't really see what future of it will be. They will have to work on the weight, engine and primarily the price. Gazoo doesn't have the resources to produce it on a large scale, but enough to keep experimenting with concept ideas.

'A new version of the car will be presented this weekend at the Tokyo Auto Salon, closer to being validated.' (closer to a production model?)

^^^ Was this true? Did anyone see a mid-engine Toyota hybrid at the Salon? ^^^

Basically they made the point several times that this is Toyota trying to shake up its boring reputation as well.

Dimman · 01-20-2011, 02:28 AM

Just read the Google translation version, and just realized I wasted a bunch of time feebly translating on my own... It's pretty clear. Just some adjectives reversed and other French-ness.

70NYD · 01-20-2011, 04:05 AM

Wait what I didn't see the 2nd page -.-
That sounds like a fths concept mule to me to be honest.. Cus of the layout, engine, power etc

Matador · 01-20-2011, 09:26 AM

No, the FT-HS is FR, this car is MR, awd. This car has been a long time in coming. the mechanicals first appeared in the Volta concept and shortly after the camo MR-S that they spoke about appeared on the ring. Then this concept. I think they really, really want to build this car.

Put a 3.5 2GR in and do it Toyota. Put some sexy sheet metal......erm sheet carbon... fiber glass... whatever.. around it and JUST DO IT!!!!!!

Dimman · 01-20-2011, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by MatadorRacing_F1

No, the FT-HS is FR, this car is MR, awd. This car has been a long time in coming. the mechanicals first appeared in the Volta concept and shortly after the camo MR-S that they spoke about appeared on the ring. Then this concept. I think they really, really want to build this car.

Put a 3.5 2GR in and do it Toyota. Put some sexy sheet metal......erm sheet carbon... fiber glass... whatever.. around it and JUST DO IT!!!!!!

In the article it sounded like it is a Gazoo project, not Toyota. And they don't have the $$$ to do it large scale, or economically as the hybrid stuff is expensive.

But 400 hp, AWD, and 0-100km/h in 4.5 seconds doesn't usually come cheap... Those numbers say $60K to me.

Matador · 01-21-2011, 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Dimman

In the article it sounded like it is a Gazoo project, not Toyota. And they don't have the $$$ to do it large scale, or economically as the hybrid stuff is expensive.

But 400 hp, AWD, and 0-100km/h in 4.5 seconds doesn't usually come cheap... Those numbers say $60K to me.

Oh trust me it's Toyota. This layup has been around before Gazoo even existed. Perhaps they have been left to develop it somewhat, but trust me.

Abflug · 01-21-2011, 10:23 AM

^^ nice concept

btw. 3.5 2GR rules!

Dark · 01-21-2011, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by MatadorRacing_F1

Oh trust me it's Toyota. This layup has been around before Gazoo even existed. Perhaps they have been left to develop it somewhat, but trust me.

Damn, the design doesn't even look old. If you want to be "green" and fast, get this( if it ever see the light in production form).

Calais · 01-22-2011, 04:43 AM

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Originally Posted by MatadorRacing_F1

Oh trust me it's Toyota. This layup has been around before Gazoo even existed. Perhaps they have been left to develop it somewhat, but trust me.

Kinda looks like the future Lotus cars dosnt it?

dalli · 01-22-2011, 06:24 AM

I thought it was a Lotus too but then i looked at the other pics and i saw the logo in between doors and engine placement. ( on the side)

70NYD · 01-22-2011, 06:47 AM

Hmm isn't there a electric lotus coming out as well in the last concepts? Could be related..

Matador · 01-22-2011, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by 70NYD

Hmm isn't there a electric lotus coming out as well in the last concepts? Could be related..

It's not. Guys, this concept came out in 2004.

I even made a Volta vs FT-HS thread

bigbcraig · 01-22-2011, 11:35 AM

It's this... http://www.autoblog.com/2010/01/15/t...400-hp-3-3-li/

I'm 100% sure it's been discussed on this board. And it was not planned for production, it was just a technology testbed / showcar.

01-20-2011, 01:45 AM	#1
70NYD Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Drives: RX8 S1 Location: Brisbane Australia Posts: 1,396 Thanks: 49 Thanked 50 Times in 38 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	GRMN hi i dunno if this has been mentioned or not already, and it is slightly confusing to me since i used google translate to read it (cant read french) but it seems to me that some of the hybrid sports car rumors COULD be stemming from the GRMN (i think something was lost in translation but) http://translate.google.com.au/trans...oncept-12.html here is the original site (in french) http://www.leblogauto.com/2011/01/ex...oncept-12.html there is also a mr2 there but seriously, something was lost in translation for me.. what do you all think? also if someone that can read french could shed some light on this article sorry if its a repost, but its dated 11-01-12 __________________

01-20-2011, 04:05 AM	#4
70NYD Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Drives: RX8 S1 Location: Brisbane Australia Posts: 1,396 Thanks: 49 Thanked 50 Times in 38 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Wait what I didn't see the 2nd page -.- That sounds like a fths concept mule to me to be honest.. Cus of the layout, engine, power etc __________________

01-22-2011, 06:47 AM	#12
70NYD Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Drives: RX8 S1 Location: Brisbane Australia Posts: 1,396 Thanks: 49 Thanked 50 Times in 38 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Hmm isn't there a electric lotus coming out as well in the last concepts? Could be related.. __________________

01-20-2011, 09:26 AM	#5
Matador hashiryu Join Date: Nov 2009 Drives: Mk4 Supra Location: Probably mucking around in an engine bay Posts: 2,567 Thanks: 18 Thanked 37 Times in 20 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	No, the FT-HS is FR, this car is MR, awd. This car has been a long time in coming. the mechanicals first appeared in the Volta concept and shortly after the camo MR-S that they spoke about appeared on the ring. Then this concept. I think they really, really want to build this car. Put a 3.5 2GR in and do it Toyota. Put some sexy sheet metal......erm sheet carbon... fiber glass... whatever.. around it and JUST DO IT!!!!!!

01-21-2011, 10:23 AM	#8
Abflug Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Drives: MR2 Location: Land des Quattro Posts: 606 Thanks: 174 Thanked 50 Times in 28 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	^^ nice concept btw. 3.5 2GR rules!

01-22-2011, 06:24 AM	#11
dalli Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Drives: Toyota Location: New York City Posts: 575 Thanks: 37 Thanked 40 Times in 30 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I thought it was a Lotus too but then i looked at the other pics and i saw the logo in between doors and engine placement. ( on the side)

01-22-2011, 11:35 AM	#14
bigbcraig Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Drives: 2013 BRZ / 2015 WRX Location: Augusta, GA Posts: 232 Thanks: 2 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	It's this... http://www.autoblog.com/2010/01/15/t...400-hp-3-3-li/ I'm 100% sure it's been discussed on this board. And it was not planned for production, it was just a technology testbed / showcar.

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