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[Lantanafrs2]

Originally Posted by Capt Spaulding

Now, considering the source, THAT is fucking hilarious.

Back to the shit list for you.

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[weederr33]

Originally Posted by Lantanafrs2

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[wbradley]

Originally Posted by 86TOYO2k17

Non covid mRNA studies, information, links, and sources. Ready set go, I’m waiting.

It’s crazy just asking for a source to a simple claim or trying to get more information gets people so bent out of shape.
“Believe what you’re told, the masses are never wrong, media and fauci never wrong, no need to do any research on your own EVER for ANYTHING, just walk life as a blind sheep”

If you are an immunological or infectious disease specialist or a health or biology related scientist, you could access academic papers through many, many sources. You will also be required to provide credentials, register and possibly pay for access.

It is widely know that mRNA vaccine tech has been in development for around 20 years. It would have really been a miracle if it was invented just in time for Covid19.

This is also the first time since it's inception that overwhelming demand enabled so many organizations to start creating vaccines with pre-existing technologies. Money talks.

Lastly, for most lay people, reading scientific papers at that level will be akin to a kindergarten student trying to perform calculus. You just can't skip the education and fake having an understanding. People with graduate degrees create this stuff, and their peers that review and hopefully apply this knowledge are the same.

[wbradley]

Originally Posted by Lantanafrs2

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Really? Yet you told me to consume a can of Raid when I joked about the Ivermectin cultists.

Thin skin obviously. I notice your posts are annoying on other threads too, which is no surprise.

[weederr33]

Originally Posted by wbradley

Really? Yet you told me to consume a can of Raid when I joked about the Ivermectin cultists.

Thin skin obviously. I notice your posts are annoying on other threads too, which is no surprise.

Outside this thread, I know he typically trolls and holds that in high regards. It's rare he contributes anything of value. Though, tbh, they can be fun. But I can only enjoy so many trolling posts before it gets annoying.

[spike021]

Originally Posted by dpfarr

This is pretty amazing to me. The amount of vaccines in queue seems huge to me. Also, there’s plenty of traditionally produced vaccines for the mRNA skeptics.

COVID-19 vaccinations in the international queue
https://www.raps.org/news-and-articl...accine-tracker

yeah, I was gonna reply this to @Atropine the other day.

Like fine, be scaredy cats of the mRNA vaccine, but you can just as easily get a J&J one-shot traditional vax.

As a side-note, I love how all the conspiracy nuts made a big deal how China was originally behind everything, then it was Bill Gates, then it was Fauci, then it was Big Pharma, and then it was America, and then some shadow cabal that rules the world, and on and on and on.

[spike021]

As another side-note, one of the Ben's from Gears and Gasoline on Youtube got a serious COVID infection that's screwed up both his lungs and they are only at 20% function. In their instagram post about it he said he's been in the hospital for 9 days and will be there even longer.

Hate to say it but I'm assuming he's unvaccinated. Sucks because he typically seems like a healthy dude, maybe a bit overweight but not obese or anything.

[Capt Spaulding]

That sucks. I enjoy some of their work. It's possible he was a vaccinated victim of a particularly nasty breakthrough infection. It would interesting to find out.

[86TOYO2k17]

Originally Posted by wbradley

If you are an immunological or infectious disease specialist or a health or biology related scientist, you could access academic papers through many, many sources. You will also be required to provide credentials, register and possibly pay for access.

It is widely know that mRNA vaccine tech has been in development for around 20 years. It would have really been a miracle if it was invented just in time for Covid19.

This is also the first time since it's inception that overwhelming demand enabled so many organizations to start creating vaccines with pre-existing technologies. Money talks.

Lastly, for most lay people, reading scientific papers at that level will be akin to a kindergarten student trying to perform calculus. You just can't skip the education and fake having an understanding. People with graduate degrees create this stuff, and their peers that review and hopefully apply this knowledge are the same.

Did I ever claim to be a “immunological or infectious disease specialist or a health or biology related scientist” ?

mRNA tech has been around for 20+ years (actually well over 30), yet according to him no mRNA cancer treatment or vaccine has ever made it past phase III.

So what treatments/vaccines have made it to phase III and why did they not pass? What made it to phase 1-2 and didn’t pass and why? This is what I want a source and more information. hence why i asked him for it. And have yet to be provided with any information regarding this to prove or debunk this.


I still can’t grasp my mind around what in my post is so difficult and complex for someone to understand… seems like the simplest thing. Give me sources to this claim. Period. Done. The end. Why over complicate it?

[Capt Spaulding]

Originally Posted by Capt Spaulding

That sucks. I enjoy some of their work. It's possible he was a vaccinated victim of a particularly nasty breakthrough infection. It would interesting to find out.

I did notice that one of the Bens, Thorn, works at Liberty University. Victim or or not, this would seem to increase the probability of his being UN-vaccinated.

[Capt Spaulding]

Originally Posted by wbradley

Hey, you can change the tone of this thread completely by blocking 1 person, maybe 2.

Or 4, or 5.

[weederr33]

From a moral standpoint, is it more or less moral to stand your ground and respect your body, or to pay respect to others around you?

[Lantanafrs2]

Originally Posted by weederr33

From a moral standpoint, is it more or less moral to stand your ground and respect your body, or to pay respect to others around you?

So not getting vaxxed is respecting my body?

[86TOYO2k17]

Originally Posted by Capt Spaulding

86TOYO2K17, Don't sweat it. Some folks may have misinterpreted your intentions. I, too, considered challenging the claim of long term side effects of mRNA treatments. I did some searches, specifically directed at cancer treatments, skimmed several papers - most were related to immunotherapy - found nada. So, the guy succeeded in wasting some of my time. Oh, well. Once again it suggested the impression I've formed of these guys is correct. I'm not going to waste any more arguing with them.

My impression was that your post was likewise, challenging the claim. If that's what you were up to - great.

If you bought it, (I didn't think you did) a little more incredulity dealing with these guys may be in order.

I wasn’t challenging it nor was I agreeing with it. Not sure what part of my post was confusing. Not sure how asking for a source to a claim/statement is “believing in and eating up all his bullshit” (paraphrasing others)

He made a clam/statement that I didn’t know and never heard about before. If it is true it is interesting at the very least.

I did a few google searches, as my post stated, to try to validate the claim (which should imply to any rational person I am skeptical and don’t just believe in what people say and take their word for it, but i have no information to validate nor invalidate his claim) but couldn’t find much information beyond covid mRNA specific information. Hence my question to him. Please provide sources.

I found a few articles stating covid mRNA vaccine being the first large scale phase III testing ever done for any mRNA vaccine/treatment. But it didn’t specify what large scale means or if others have been in small scale, or how many etc... hard to find a lot of info, google searches of anything mRNA related just come up with covid specific. Has no other mRNA vaccine/treatment passed phase III because they all failed? Or because none have made it to phase III? Did they not make it to phase III because testing hasn’t progressed that far for various reasons but it could still, or is it because they all failed phase I-II testing? Or is his claim false and other have actually been to phase III and passed?

He made the claim, I couldn’t validate it myself, so I am asking him to. Pretty simple question really.

But you can tell some peoples mentalities/moralities are out of wack, when they are so quick to jump to conclusions and attack people even if they are completely baseless.