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Get ready June 2 reveal date for something, likely the North American GR86
Eh. I guess. The 1/2 series was always too heavy for its size to be truly fun to drive IMO. The M2 weighs almost 400lbs more than the Supra, and actually weighs more than the F80 M3/M4. Like most BMWs from the last 10 years, so close, but not good enough for me to buy one. |
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Nice!!! RFs are so damn sexy
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You made a poor analogy with whether Chevy using a Ford motor in the C8 Corvette would be forgivable or not. In the case with to the twins or the zupra the appropriate question to ask is: "Would prospective sports cars owners rather have the option of a C8 Corvette produced using a Ford motor over the C8 even existing at all, what would they choose?" I'd rather have more options on the market to choose from. Would I have preferred the 86 been 100% Toyota? Heck yeah. But I'd take the co developed twin over being limited to the Miata as the only choice for an affordable lightweight rwd sports car that I can buy brand new The twins and supra were more passion projects of Toyota that were never expected to be a huge profit generating star on their lineup. To make it affordable for prospective buyers and practical for their own bottom line, shared development was necessary for these cars to existed. Toyota has been away from the sports car scene for so long this could be their low risk way of getting their toes wet. Who knows what it'll be like in a few years, if the big wigs in Toyota feel it's practical to develop a sports car from their ground up, we may see it in the future. I am not holding my breath, however. There are higher chances of a 100% Toyota sports car in electrical form before we see a 100% Toyota made 86 or supra in ICE form
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Get ready June 2 reveal date for something, likely the North American GR86
I think another significant hurdle for Toyota is simply producing a low volume car in any of their facilities which have been set up for extremely high volumes. Corollas and RAV4s sell at extremely consistent and predictable rates, sports cars do not. I don’t think they want to commit assembly line capacity (and uncertainty) from their facilities to these kinds of cars, which is why they let Subaru and Magna Steyr build them for them.
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Totally agree. Even gr Yaris was only made due to the homologation requirement from top rally regulations. I still wish they made the little rocket available in North America. Would be the idea winter car to pair with the twin
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We may get our wish or as close as we can get with Corolla GR. If we get the same motor and AWD system with the new Corolla hatchback...
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Fair, but it won’t be as tossable as the 2850lbs Yaris. The BRZ spoiled me with lightness, everything else feels heavy now. |
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And if they ditch the AWD to save weight, you might as well get a CTR
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But its unlikely to be such a departure in its chassis from its original model like the YarisGR was. But lets say they gave her the new YarisGR engine + built on the hybrid tech and gave her civic killing power. That would still be really cool. |
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