Need help with swapping engine FRS - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

frsnick · 05-09-2016, 09:28 PM

I got a call from the dealer saying my engine was locked, thus needing a new engine....before the unsettling news I was looking into buying a supercharger, however now I will be using that money to buy an engine. I do not want to go near the stock FA20, what are other possible engines that I can swap in with a budget of 4K.

Also, looking for reliability, I'll be moving to uni. soon and will not have extra $$$ to shell out on oil pumps,etc.
Thank you!

(2013 Scion FR-S)

tommewin · 05-09-2016, 09:46 PM

There is a whole subforum for motor swaps http://www.ft86club.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=92

A budget of $4k is nowhere near enough for a swap, much less a reliable setup.

frsnick · 05-09-2016, 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tommewin

There is a whole subforum for motor swaps http://www.ft86club.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=92

A budget of $4k is nowhere near enough for a swap, much less a reliable setup.

What's a reasonable budget them? I've never messed with engines, I'm strictly electrical.

frsnick · 05-09-2016, 09:53 PM

Thanks for the link! helped a lot

steve99 · 05-09-2016, 09:54 PM

you could easily spend 4k just on the electronics and interfacing to get a different engine functioning let alone the actual engine and labour to install

Mr.ac · 05-09-2016, 10:47 PM

Given your situation, it's just best to drop in the OEM engine. Then save up later on down the road. That way at lest you'll have something to roll around in.

FRS Justin · 05-10-2016, 12:11 AM

Salvage motors go between 1500 and 2600. Do yourself a favor and stick with your year model.. 2013-2014

2015-2016

finch1750 · 05-10-2016, 04:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frsnick

I got a call from the dealer saying my engine was locked, thus needing a new engine....before the unsettling news I was looking into buying a supercharger, however now I will be using that money to buy an engine. I do not want to go near the stock FA20, what are other possible engines that I can swap in with a budget of 4K.

Also, looking for reliability, I'll be moving to uni. soon and will not have extra $$$ to shell out on oil pumps,etc.
Thank you!

(2013 Scion FR-S)

None.

The isnt a problem with the FA20 and you cant afford anything else so just get a new(used) one and put it in.

You are in over your head if you cant even figure out a budget for the swap. If you somehow figure a budget out the rule of thumb I have gone by is double it. Dumb shit adds up fast when doing custom work.

How did you manage to lock the engine anyway? Hydrolock?

RichardsFRS · 05-10-2016, 12:21 PM

Why did your engine lock?

mav1178 · 05-10-2016, 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frsnick

I got a call from the dealer saying my engine was locked, thus needing a new engine....before the unsettling news I was looking into buying a supercharger, however now I will be using that money to buy an engine. I do not want to go near the stock FA20, what are other possible engines that I can swap in with a budget of 4K.

Also, looking for reliability, I'll be moving to uni. soon and will not have extra $$$ to shell out on oil pumps,etc.
Thank you!

(2013 Scion FR-S)

Your reality check:

a decent running stock FA20 runs over $3k. Add in labor to swap in and that's your $4k budget.

I think you should swap in a FA20 instead of your stock 4U-GSE. Makes more horsepower.

-alex

NyC Zn6 · 05-10-2016, 03:48 PM

OP wouldn't the dealer replace the engine under warranty?

ryoma · 05-10-2016, 05:54 PM

it might make more sense to go through insurance if you're sticking with the FA20. I'm assuming it was hydrolocked and your insurance SHOULD cover it unless you were dumb and drove into a pool of water.

humfrz · 05-10-2016, 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frsnick

I got a call from the dealer saying my engine was locked, thus needing a new engine....before the unsettling news I was looking into buying a supercharger, however now I will be using that money to buy an engine. I do not want to go near the stock FA20, what are other possible engines that I can swap in with a budget of 4K.

Also, looking for reliability, I'll be moving to uni. soon and will not have extra $$$ to shell out on oil pumps,etc.
Thank you!

(2013 Scion FR-S)

What / where is "uni." ... ??

humfrz

frsnick · 05-11-2016, 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by finch1750

None.

The isnt a problem with the FA20 and you cant afford anything else so just get a new(used) one and put it in.

You are in over your head if you cant even figure out a budget for the swap. If you somehow figure a budget out the rule of thumb I have gone by is double it. Dumb shit adds up fast when doing custom work.

How did you manage to lock the engine anyway? Hydrolock?

Decided to stick with the fa20 and install a supercharger(7K). I don't know, I bought it from a salvage auction, it was listed as only hail damage.

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frsnick Member Join Date: May 2016 Drives: Scion fr-s 2013 Base Location: San Antonio Posts: 23 Thanks: 1 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Need help with swapping engine FRS I got a call from the dealer saying my engine was locked, thus needing a new engine....before the unsettling news I was looking into buying a supercharger, however now I will be using that money to buy an engine. I do not want to go near the stock FA20, what are other possible engines that I can swap in with a budget of 4K. Also, looking for reliability, I'll be moving to uni. soon and will not have extra $$$ to shell out on oil pumps,etc. Thank you! (2013 Scion FR-S) Last edited by frsnick; 05-09-2016 at 09:44 PM.

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ryoma Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Drives: 2015 Subaru BRZ Limited CWP Location: SoCal Posts: 1,561 Thanks: 34 Thanked 669 Times in 469 Posts Mentioned: 13 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	it might make more sense to go through insurance if you're sticking with the FA20. I'm assuming it was hydrolocked and your insurance SHOULD cover it unless you were dumb and drove into a pool of water. __________________ My 2015 CWP BRZ Build

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tommewin Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Drives: '15 BRZ Location: Houston,TX Posts: 17 Thanks: 0 Thanked 7 Times in 5 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	There is a whole subforum for motor swaps http://www.ft86club.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=92 A budget of $4k is nowhere near enough for a swap, much less a reliable setup.

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frsnick Member Join Date: May 2016 Drives: Scion fr-s 2013 Base Location: San Antonio Posts: 23 Thanks: 1 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Thanks for the link! helped a lot

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steve99 Banned Join Date: Dec 2013 Drives: FT86 Location: Australia Posts: 7,998 Thanks: 1,035 Thanked 4,987 Times in 2,981 Posts Mentioned: 598 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	you could easily spend 4k just on the electronics and interfacing to get a different engine functioning let alone the actual engine and labour to install

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