03/23 Reviews --> No understeer complaints... - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

bloomy116 · 03-23-2012, 11:16 PM

After browsing through the new reviews, I didn't really notice writers complaining about understeer. Do you guys think that the understeer mentioned in some of the earlier reviews from late last year have been corrected in the final production version of this car?

dsgerbc · 03-23-2012, 11:26 PM

I'm fairly certain there was a notice of initial understeer somewhere. Can't remember in which one.

tranzformer · 03-24-2012, 02:03 AM

MotorTrend review says it has initial understeer that transitions gently and predictably to controllable oversteer.

sieeegel · 03-24-2012, 02:08 AM

wall street journal test drive actually distinctly discusses how the BRZ's oversteer is the major reason to buy the car.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...942708538.html

bloomy116 · 03-24-2012, 02:24 AM

I was just wondering if any changes were made such that the handling is now closer to the FR-S.

tranzformer · 03-24-2012, 02:28 AM

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Originally Posted by bloomy116

I was just wondering if any changes were made such that the handling is now closer to the FR-S.

No changes to suspension from what I have heard. Same setup on BRZ as before unless they did something that we don't know about yet.

IntenseDVDA · 03-24-2012, 02:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bloomy116

After browsing through the new reviews, I didn't really notice writers complaining about understeer. Do you guys think that the understeer mentioned in some of the earlier reviews from late last year have been corrected in the final production version of this car?

I hear you though. It feels like back during the wave of first drives understeer was a relatively up front topic.

gdi2290 · 03-24-2012, 02:35 AM

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Originally Posted by tranzformer

No changes to suspension from what I have heard. Same setup on BRZ as before unless they did something that we don't know about yet.

BRZ is an inch lower and 55:45 compared with the FR-S

tranzformer · 03-24-2012, 02:46 AM

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Originally Posted by gdi2290

BRZ is an inch lower and 55:45 compared with the FR-S

I know it is setup different than the FRS. But setup hasn't changed since the pre-production reviews we got a few months back.

ahausheer · 03-24-2012, 02:59 AM

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Originally Posted by gdi2290

BRZ is an inch lower and 55:45 compared with the FR-S

No it is not, they just pick a different spot to count as the ''top'' of the car.

MRZ415 · 03-24-2012, 03:37 AM

After reading this article ... I know this car is for me ...
I like to FEEL like I am going fast without actually going FAST..
My current car gives me ALOT of TQ at city speeds ...
but now I want to feel the same but at HWY speeds to at least get me
to 65mph faster while merging into the HWY.

Sport-Tech · 03-24-2012, 04:16 AM

Could be that understeer is more apparent when pushing really hard on the track, and that was the location for the initial review drives - now testers are driving them on public roads where it isn't a significant factor.

WhiteGDB · 03-24-2012, 07:02 AM

What car doesn't have a little understeer dialed in form the factory? Apparently only the FR-S?

SUB-FT86 · 03-24-2012, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Scion FR-S

Could be that understeer is more apparent when pushing really hard on the track, and that was the location for the initial review drives - now testers are driving them on public roads where it isn't a significant factor.

Bingo!

I've seen a video on track of the BRZ understeering off a track.

03-23-2012, 11:16 PM	#1
bloomy116 Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Drives: 2010 Honda Civic Si Location: MD Posts: 26 Thanks: 2 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	03/23 Reviews --> No understeer complaints... After browsing through the new reviews, I didn't really notice writers complaining about understeer. Do you guys think that the understeer mentioned in some of the earlier reviews from late last year have been corrected in the final production version of this car?

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MRZ415 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Drives: 2015 Subaru WRX Location: San Francisco Posts: 339 Thanks: 41 Thanked 14 Times in 11 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	After reading this article ... I know this car is for me ... I like to FEEL like I am going fast without actually going FAST.. My current car gives me ALOT of TQ at city speeds ... but now I want to feel the same but at HWY speeds to at least get me to 65mph faster while merging into the HWY. __________________

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