New Tecna coilovers from 949 Racing?

[949 Racing]

86'ers,

This is a feeler for a new product that we might develop

We just released Tecnas for the 90-05 Miata. Taiwan made, developed by us, Premium Sport coilover. They have been a huge success so we're looking to use the same formula for the 86.
Link for the Miata kit here

Unlike our pro motorsports level $4100 Xida kit, a potential 86 Tecna kit would be about half the price, steel body, valved more conservatively for street, casual auto-x and HPDE use and include a 5 year warranty, camber plates, rear mounts, camber eccentric inserts, and inverted strut. Tecnas ship fully assembled with starting preload already set. Many of our Miata customers literally just bolt them on and drive without a single adjustment.

The total range of Tecnas would be roughly equivalent to the bottom 60% of Xida range. So if you are building a dedicated track car with lots of downforce, Xidas are probably still the best solution. We would offer a Touring kit with 280lb springs and a Sport kit with about 450 lb springs.

So anybody interested in such Tecnas for the GT/GR?

Our Pro level Xida kit. Tecnas would look pretty much the same but have gray springs instead of the fancy Swifts.

[Ohio Enthusiast]

Looks like these would compete against the RCE SS1 and CSG Flex A. Interested to hear what would make this a better option (not to dis you, genuinely want to learn. Plus, today there is little to differentiate between the SS1 and Flex A, how would the coilover suggestion threads look like with 3 solid options instead of 2?)

More choice is better for us. I really like the choice of spring rates, though.

Originally Posted by 949 Racing

We would offer a Touring kit with 250lb springs and a Sport kit with about 400 lb springs.

Will there be different damper valving between the two spring rates?

Edit: Also, will you be offering different versions for 1st and 2nd gens? Rear motion ratio is different which prompted some to suggest different tuning is preferred between the generations.

[turbofan]

CSG Flex A - on the plus side, it has platform-specific tuning thanks to CSG's involvement, but it's still a non-inverted short stroke damper, no helper springs, twin tube construction.

RCE, same thing. Platform specific tuning, but a twin tube non-inverted damper. This affects stiffness and durability of the shock. All properly designed high-end aftermarket struts have an inverted damper - Moton, AST, our Xidas to name a few. Tecna would be the only midrange damper to use this construction.

It's also a monotube damper for better performance than the RCE and CSG Flex A.

We will use the same damper valving, but we always tune our dampers with a wider sweep than the competition so it works well with multiple spring rate options. If you're a race team with a shock guy in the trailer who can revalve between sessions it makes sense to do specific valving for different spring rates, or for the very small difference between GT and GR rear motion ratio. But in this case it's better to just create a damping sweep that covers both.

[949 Racing]

Originally Posted by Ohio Enthusiast

Looks like these would compete against the RCE SS1 and CSG Flex A. Interested to hear what would make this a better option (not to dis you, genuinely want to learn. Plus, today there is little to differentiate between the SS1 and Flex A, how would the coilover suggestion threads look like with 3 solid options instead of 2?)

More choice is better for us. I really like the choice of spring rates, though.



Will there be different damper valving between the two spring rates?

Edit: Also, will you be offering different versions for 1st and 2nd gens? Rear motion ratio is different which prompted some to suggest different tuning is preferred between the generations.

SS1 and Flex A are twin tube, conventional configuration. Tecna would be monotube, inverted strut and cost a few hundred more. Our camber plates are coaxial perch, the others are not. Our plates are also the lowest stack height of any 86 camber plate on the market, so maximum bump travel and adjustability. The struts would also incorporate our built in eccentric adjustment for greater camber range.

The other two are nice products but Tecnas would be a step up in every way. Apples to oranges.

Valving the same for GT & GR but GR get slightly different springs rates, just as we do with Xidas. Our GR customers on Xidas have been stoked on the set up.

Edit: I see that the SS1 ship without rear mounts. The SS2 include rear mounts and slightly firmer valving. That being the case, Tecna would be more comparable to the SS2 but monotube.

[Ohio Enthusiast]

Originally Posted by 949 Racing

SS1 and Flex A are twin tube, conventional configuration. Tecna would be monotube, inverted strut and cost a few hundred more. Our camber plates are coaxial perch, the others are not. Our plates are also the lowest stack height of any 86 camber plate on the market, so maximum bump travel and adjustability. The struts would also incorporate our built in eccentric adjustment for greater camber range.

Perfect, exactly the details I (and probably others) are looking for! Ain't gonna lie, you make it sound like a great set of coilovers for a sweet-spot price. I'm mighty tempted to pledge to buy when they're available.

Originally Posted by 949 Racing

Valving the same for GT & GR but GR get slightly different springs rates

Thanks, but I was asking specifically for the 250 vs 400 springs - do they have valving difference?

Edit: now I saw @turbofan's reply. No valving difference as the dampers are designed to support both 250 and 400 spring rates.

[Xed32]

Yes please.

[doward]

Ive been in two cars on the RCE SS1 and actually sold a buddy on a set as the closest thing at the time to "86 technas." They're pretty solid value, and I would definitely call them the current benchmark for a 60/40 dual duty street performance coilover.

To see Technas come over to the 86 chassis would be cool. Lots of saturation to fight against as every single catalog company in existence makes an 86 fitment. Lots of "Noise" to market against, so to speak.

I am already a satisfied Xida customer, so my vote is literally worthless though. :p

[nripinbabu@gmail.com]

Interested in sport touring!!

[949 Racing]

Originally Posted by nripinbabu@gmail.com

Interested in sport touring!!

Sport or Touring actually

[ChibbMD]

Yeah, I'm in the market right now for a set of coilovers in the $1,800-2,500 range and these sound like they would be a nice option. Any idea on ETA?

[949 Racing]

Originally Posted by ChibbMD

Yeah, I'm in the market right now for a set of coilovers in the $1,800-2,500 range and these sound like they would be a nice option. Any idea on ETA?

No idea on ETA. Best guess is 9-12 months. Could be sooner depending on how a few other projects go but we haven't even started prototyping yet. It's just an idea at this point. But we have all of the R&D from our Xida kit and have already done a little bit of preliminary research on it so we know it can be done.

[PulsarBeeerz]

Interested as well.

[___LUNK]

How different would these perform to xidas with the same spring rates? Say 250lb on both or if you put 400lb springs on xidas and adjusted the knob to match?

[dragoontwo]

What might your target camber for the chips look like?