Re-71 vs Falken RT660

[smg1138]

I’m looking to get new tires at the start of this season. Trying to choose between the RT660’s and the A052’s. Are the Yokos work the extra money?

[Icecreamtruk]

Originally Posted by smg1138

I’m looking to get new tires at the start of this season. Trying to choose between the RT660’s and the A052’s. Are the Yokos work the extra money?

It depends, are you willing to pay extra for a couple of tenths?

[Goingnowherefast]

Originally Posted by smg1138

I’m looking to get new tires at the start of this season. Trying to choose between the RT660’s and the A052’s. Are the Yokos work the extra money?

Are you doing time attack/TT/AutoX? Then yes the A052's are worth it over the RT660's. If you are just doing HPDE's, then I'd save the money and go with the RT660's.

[smg1138]

Pretty much just AutoX and maybe a couple of track day events. I'm currently only running -3 camber up front. Is that enough for the A052? I've heard they like a lot of camber.

[Icecreamtruk]

Originally Posted by smg1138

Pretty much just AutoX and maybe a couple of track day events. I'm currently only running -3 camber up front. Is that enough for the A052? I've heard they like a lot of camber.

Depends on how much grip you are generating (aero, suspension, speeds and places you run at). For autox it might be ok, I dont know anything about that. For track, on my medium to high DF setup I had -4.7 up front and -3.5 in the rear and the pyro measurements told me I needed even more up front.

[steverife]

I ran my car with less camber than I wanted last year (like -3.6 degrees up front) and the Yoks held up really well. I'm at about 100 autocross runs and a few thousand street miles including a couple of Tail of the Dragon trips.

[RT-BRZ]

Originally Posted by steverife

I ran my car with less camber than I wanted last year (like -3.6 degrees up front) and the Yoks held up really well. I'm at about 100 autocross runs and a few thousand street miles including a couple of Tail of the Dragon trips.

I've been following this thread and many others regarding the A052. I get the feeling that what's off about the A052 conversation is that it rarely compares similar cars and similar driving styles. I've personally noticed that even RE71's didn't last as long on my WRX as they do on the BRZ.

In my case I chose the RT660 purely out of cost. I have another driver in my house that I have fund as well and tires get expensive when you're covering two cars.

[Icecreamtruk]

Originally Posted by RT-BRZ

I've been following this thread and many others regarding the A052. I get the feeling that what's off about the A052 conversation is that it rarely compares similar cars and similar driving styles. I've personally noticed that even RE71's didn't last as long on my WRX as they do on the BRZ.

You mean like comparing A052 in say a mustang or a WRX vs on the BRZ/86? If thats what you mean I dont see the point in knowing how well they work on other cars. Good tires are good tires and heavier cars will always punish tires more than lighter cars. FWD and AWD will always abuse the fronts more than RWD.

Driving style? The yokos are a bit vague at the limit, similar to the Nittos NT01 and very different from the RE71R. They are fast, if you can generate and maintain a somewhat high slip angle thru the whole corner, faster than anything in the 100-200 TW game currently.

[RT-BRZ]

Originally Posted by Icecreamtruk

You mean like comparing A052 in say a mustang or a WRX vs on the BRZ/86? If thats what you mean I dont see the point in knowing how well they work on other cars. Good tires are good tires and heavier cars will always punish tires more than lighter cars. FWD and AWD will always abuse the fronts more than RWD.

Driving style? The yokos are a bit vague at the limit, similar to the Nittos NT01 and very different from the RE71R. They are fast, if you can generate and maintain a somewhat high slip angle thru the whole corner, faster than anything in the 100-200 TW game currently.

It feels like you're calling me out when we are saying the same things. I'm not saying the A052 are bad. I'm saying that the kinds of complaints I've heard seem to come from people driving heavier cars. Like you said, heavier cars definitely seem to have an impact on the tires.

Personally I just couldn't justify the extra cost.

[Icecreamtruk]

Originally Posted by RT-BRZ

It feels like you're calling me out when we are saying the same things.

Didnt mean to, I kinda read that differently, my bad.

[RT-BRZ]

Originally Posted by Icecreamtruk

Didnt mean to, I kinda read that differently, my bad.

All good man.

[Touge_Monster]

How about the Nankang CR1 or is this thread specifically about RE71R and RT660?

[RT-BRZ]

Originally Posted by Touge_Monster

How about the Nankang CR1 or is this thread specifically about RE71R and RT660?

Too new in my area to know. It doesn't look like Tire Rack or Discount Tire carry them yet. They look a lot like the Yoks based on what I've seen.

Probably good? If they are attempting to compete with Yokohama and Falken then it's a good thing and they probably aren't bad. We'll see.

[Touge_Monster]

Originally Posted by RT-BRZ

Too new in my area to know. It doesn't look like Tire Rack or Discount Tire carry them yet. They look a lot like the Yoks based on what I've seen.

Probably good? If they are attempting to compete with Yokohama and Falken then it's a good thing and they probably aren't bad. We'll see.

I think only a few shops have them and limited sizes for the time being. I know Phil's Tire service and Touge Factory has them for sale. I know they're faster than A052 from what some people that got to test them are saying.