Any good reason to stick with 1st Gen?

[Yoshoobaroo]

Originally Posted by Frost

I forget, did the 1st gens have cup holders in the doors? The second gen does.

Yea but the door handle got in the way.

[Frost]

Here's the best part for me... coming from an S2000, I'm all "OMG! SPACE! CUP HOLDERS! SO ROOMY!"

[NWFRS]

Originally Posted by Yoshoobaroo

Thank you. I was just casually reading the thread, and couldn’t understand the interior door pull fixation. I didn’t spot that little recess in the armrest. Thought for a moment it had nothing at all. I guess I feel more strongly about the dash architecture than I do the door panels.

[prod]

Originally Posted by Frost

Here's the best part for me... coming from an S2000, I'm all "OMG! SPACE! CUP HOLDERS! SO ROOMY!"

+Adjustable steering column.

[BrahmaBull1990]

I don’t know why, but I’m laughing right now we are arguing over door handles. True enthusiasts hahaha

[soundman98]

give me the car for a saturday, and by the end of the day i wouldn't even notice.

[Sasquachulator]

Originally Posted by BrahmaBull1990

I don’t know why, but I’m laughing right now we are arguing over door handles. True enthusiasts hahaha

The new door handle latch is more plastic than my chrome wrapped plastic latch handle!

dealbreaker!

[BrahmaBull1990]

Originally Posted by Sasquachulator

The new door handle latch is more plastic than my chrome wrapped plastic latch handle!

dealbreaker!

“That beautiful Swedish woman is into you!”

“Elbows too pointy; not into it.”

[ZDan]

Originally Posted by soundman98

give me the car for a saturday, and by the end of the day i wouldn't even notice.

Honestly I notice the grab handle on my car every time I use it, and I love it! I really do think I would miss it...

Otherwise I'm a huge fan of the new car, may have to overcome loss of handle

[soundman98]

Originally Posted by ZDan

Honestly I notice the grab handle on my car every time I use it, and I love it! I really do think I would miss it...

Otherwise I'm a huge fan of the new car, may have to overcome loss of handle

this is the only 1 of 2 vehicles i've ever had with the vertical door pull design. i like it, but using the other style every day across 2 other vehicles, it just doesn't matter to me.

[Dirty Harry]

I think the only reason to stick to the first gen would be the looks. Reading and watching all the reviews of the 2nd gen, it will be a mechanically superior car.

I do prefer the first gen looks, especially the fender humps, but I don’t think the 2nd gen is a bad looking car and the looks wouldn’t stop me buying a 2nd gen if I was in the market. I am looking forward to seeing it in person, I think it will look better than in the photos.

Also the amount of mods to your first gen car would be a factor in not upgrading too.

[nikitopo]

It is not a bad looking car, but it lacks the old saying "built by passion not by committee". Little things like the fender humps or the manual A/C with the option to delete in entry level grades or the analog display cluster or the buttonless steering wheel and so on.

[Dylans47]

Originally Posted by nikitopo

It is not a bad looking car, but it lacks the old saying "built by passion not by committee". Little things like the fender humps or the manual A/C with the option to delete in entry level grades or the analog display cluster or the buttonless steering wheel and so on.

Normally I might agree, but in this case they've only improved the car. I've owned 3 miatas, and a first year FRS. I'm all for what you're talking about and I know where you're coming from.

Here with the GR86, they marginally increased the weight, gave us the engine we wanted, and still kept the soul of the car. The fender humps are still there, take a look at any review of the car. There is the RZ trim confirmed for Japan which removes AC, duckbill spoiler, badging, and center infotainment, and gives it steel wheels for those looking for a cheap entry for R&D or motorsports. The only thing you mentioned that was true is the display cluster, but even that has the enthusiast in mind. It gives us oil temperature, tire pressure, etc, all while being gimmick free. In normal mode the digital cluster even mimics an analog gauge to give "purists" even less to complain about.

Small rant because it sucks to hear complaints about things that either don't exist, or aren't an issue, especially when Toyota did an incredible job on the GR86.

[Yoshoobaroo]

Originally Posted by Dylans47

Normally I might agree, but in this case they've only improved the car. I've owned 3 miatas, and a first year FRS. I'm all for what you're talking about and I know where you're coming from.

Here with the GR86, they marginally increased the weight, gave us the engine we wanted, and still kept the soul of the car. The fender humps are still there, take a look at any review of the car. There is the RZ trim confirmed for Japan which removes AC, duckbill spoiler, badging, and center infotainment, and gives it steel wheels for those looking for a cheap entry for R&D or motorsports. The only thing you mentioned that was true is the display cluster, but even that has the enthusiast in mind. It gives us oil temperature, tire pressure, etc, all while being gimmick free. In normal mode the digital cluster even mimics an analog gauge to give "purists" even less to complain about.

Small rant because it sucks to hear complaints about things that either don't exist, or aren't an issue, especially when Toyota did an incredible job on the GR86.

I agree 100%, realistically this refresh could not have gone much better than it did.