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Old 12-22-2016, 07:12 PM   #1
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Most tail happy lowering springs?

So what is the most tail happy set of lowering springs out there? Is it just between TRD and Swift springs FR-S spec to consider? Looking for around but not more than a 1 inch drop

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So what is the most tail happy set of lowering springs out there? Is it just between TRD and Swift springs FR-S spec to consider? Looking for around but not more than a 1 inch drop

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Read the sticky on the top of this section... spring rates are listed.
"Sticky: BRZ/FR-S Suspension Options List (Springs and Coilovers)"
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Read the sticky on the top of this section... spring rates are listed.
"Sticky: BRZ/FR-S Suspension Options List (Springs and Coilovers)"
Yeah was reading that but not sure it answered my question. Is it really as simple as looking for whatever spring rates have the biggest difference between front and rears?? Cuz don't they also translate a bit different when on the car? Sorry I'm new especially with suspension

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Yeah was reading that but not sure it answered my question. Is it really as simple as looking for whatever spring rates have the biggest difference between front and rears?? Cuz don't they also translate a bit different when on the car? Sorry I'm new especially with suspension

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Short answer= Yes.
Long answer= edit* thanks @ZDan Wheel rate is spring rate multiplied by motion ratio SQUARED.

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Also how changes in alignment affect handling. Especially rear toe out.
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there is no "most tail happy springs". if you want to be tail happy, get rear biased(stiffer) springs.
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Also how changes in alignment affect handling. Especially rear toe out.
And what size and type of wheels and tires.
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So what is the most tail happy set of lowering springs out there? Is it just between TRD and Swift springs FR-S spec to consider? Looking for around but not more than a 1 inch drop
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Wouldn't a different rear sway bar affect the "tail happiness" more?
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If you want more tail hapy, put shitty tires on the rear and have fun
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Spring rate X motion ratio = wheel rate.
Wheel rate is spring rate multiplied by motion ratio SQUARED.
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And what size and type of wheels and tires.
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They wont sell you springs, but if you're willing to listen they can help you learn how to do what you're probably trying to do with some degree of sanity.
It does sound like a better plan to learn how to handle before changing parts out

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It does sound like a better plan to learn how to handle before changing parts out

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