follow ft86club on our blog, twitter or facebook.
FT86CLUB
Ft86Club
Delicious Tuning
Register Garage Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Go Back   Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community - FT86CLUB > Off-Topic Discussions > Other Vehicles & General Automotive Discussions

Other Vehicles & General Automotive Discussions Discuss all other cars and automotive news here.


User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 10-29-2020, 11:36 PM   #533
beltax90
Senior Member
 
beltax90's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2019
Drives: 2010 corolla
Location: california
Posts: 1,404
Thanks: 1,520
Thanked 1,798 Times in 780 Posts
Mentioned: 7 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
.
Attached Images
 
beltax90 is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to beltax90 For This Useful Post:
Galerion (10-30-2020), JD001 (10-30-2020), spike021 (11-05-2020), weederr33 (10-30-2020)
Old 10-30-2020, 04:47 PM   #534
Galerion
Member
 
Galerion's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2020
Drives: Toyota GR Yaris
Location: Germany
Posts: 28
Thanks: 8
Thanked 74 Times in 25 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Galerion is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to Galerion For This Useful Post:
beltax90 (11-02-2020), JD001 (10-30-2020), spike021 (11-05-2020), weederr33 (10-30-2020)
Old 11-05-2020, 04:13 PM   #535
Galerion
Member
 
Galerion's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2020
Drives: Toyota GR Yaris
Location: Germany
Posts: 28
Thanks: 8
Thanked 74 Times in 25 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
So it looks like currently all kinds of journalists are driving the cars and next week Tuesday there are allowed to publish their reviews and impressions.

This fellow has already posted something though. It's not a full-fledged review but his thoughts and impressions. Obviously he is not allowed to say that he is talking about the GR but he makes it obvious that he does


"Remember those stories that used to fly around the benches of the sixth form common room in whispered tones, told simply for the sake of the telling? Gossip and tittle-tattle usually, but occasionally something that seemed momentous at the time – and always told in that “I can’t tell you who I’m talking about or how I know this, but I’ve simply got to tell somebody type of way. Well, I’m dying to tell you one about a car.

It’s just provided what might have been the most amazing drive I’ve had in anything all year. But this isn’t a review. I’ve absolutely no intention of revealing exactly which car I’m talking about, I’m afraid. I’m very much hoping, in fact, that when I’m finished here, the closest you’ll be able to come to knowing exactly what I’ve been frothing on about is via an educated, balance-of-probability guess. Not that I’m really even inviting guesses, either. If you email me a correct one, I’m bound not to tell you that you’re right anyway. Sorry.

But wow, what a car. It’s one of a breed that feels rather like it’s been in hibernation for a decade or so and that I wasn’t sure would ever really return at all. And yet, here it is. It is also a supremely, deliciously unlikely sort of fast car – because of what it is, what it’s like to drive and who has made it.

It’s really fast and incredibly eye-opening to drive but also temptingly affordable. It’s the kind of car that seems purpose-built for racking up improbable point-to-point average speeds that exceed what you imagined might be its true potential by at least double. To be bluntly honest, it’s the kind of car we used to call a ‘licence-loser’, back when it was a little bit more acceptable to joke about these things. But you could park it in broad daylight next to entirely ordinary cars and the vast majority of people wouldn’t look at it twice. “Oh, it’s only an ‘x’,” people will say. If only they knew.

I’ve just spent a couple of days driving this car on UK A- and B-roads that it suited joyously well. We’ve reached the point now when even some of our new and allegedly compact performance cars can feel, at times, like they’ve become uncomfortably large between the hedges and the white lines. We know this – we write about it frequently – and no amount of handling precision or body control can really make up for it.

Well, praise be, this new car really isn’t like that. And as well as being one of the best-sized enthusiast cars I’ve driven in recent times, it’s scandalously sure-footed and has dynamic tuning that seems quite brilliantly judged for devouring cross-country miles at pace. It isn’t over-sprung or over-responsive; it doesn’t feel like a track-day fugitive, because there’s a good dose of pragmatism and progressiveness about its body control; and it has handling manners that allow it to just keep getting better the faster you go.

I can quite appreciate that the car I’m describing may not sound very ‘now’. It was always a risk to make performance cars like this, so plainly and absolutely dedicated to the thrill of speed sampled out in the wild on the public road. There really aren’t many places left where cars like that can be enjoyed at anything like their full potential. Twenty-five years ago, when the likes of the Subaru Impreza and Mitsubishi Lancer Evo were doing their thing and the Lancia Delta Integrale, Audi Quattro and Ford Escort Cosworth hadn’t long finished doing something similar, nobody had even thought that mandatory electronic speed limiters might one day be a thing. These days, the climate in which fast cars exist has changed so much.

And yet there is still a time and a place for lightning to strike, it would seem. The improbably quick, alluringly inexpensive, slightly geeky and cultish, A-to-B-in-a-heartbeat-and-in-any-weather performance car is back – and I can’t wait to tell you more about it.

Matt Saunders
Road test editor
Galerion is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Galerion For This Useful Post:
JesseG (11-05-2020), spike021 (11-05-2020)
Old 11-05-2020, 06:00 PM   #536
spike021
Senior Member
 
spike021's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Drives: '17 Limited BRZ CWP w/ PP
Location: San Jose, CA
Posts: 5,774
Thanks: 14,056
Thanked 6,471 Times in 3,207 Posts
Mentioned: 68 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Galerion View Post
So it looks like currently all kinds of journalists are driving the cars and next week Tuesday there are allowed to publish their reviews and impressions.

This fellow has already posted something though. It's not a full-fledged review but his thoughts and impressions. Obviously he is not allowed to say that he is talking about the GR but he makes it obvious that he does


"Remember those stories that used to fly around the benches of the sixth form common room in whispered tones, told simply for the sake of the telling? Gossip and tittle-tattle usually, but occasionally something that seemed momentous at the time – and always told in that “I can’t tell you who I’m talking about or how I know this, but I’ve simply got to tell somebody type of way. Well, I’m dying to tell you one about a car.

It’s just provided what might have been the most amazing drive I’ve had in anything all year. But this isn’t a review. I’ve absolutely no intention of revealing exactly which car I’m talking about, I’m afraid. I’m very much hoping, in fact, that when I’m finished here, the closest you’ll be able to come to knowing exactly what I’ve been frothing on about is via an educated, balance-of-probability guess. Not that I’m really even inviting guesses, either. If you email me a correct one, I’m bound not to tell you that you’re right anyway. Sorry.

But wow, what a car. It’s one of a breed that feels rather like it’s been in hibernation for a decade or so and that I wasn’t sure would ever really return at all. And yet, here it is. It is also a supremely, deliciously unlikely sort of fast car – because of what it is, what it’s like to drive and who has made it.

It’s really fast and incredibly eye-opening to drive but also temptingly affordable. It’s the kind of car that seems purpose-built for racking up improbable point-to-point average speeds that exceed what you imagined might be its true potential by at least double. To be bluntly honest, it’s the kind of car we used to call a ‘licence-loser’, back when it was a little bit more acceptable to joke about these things. But you could park it in broad daylight next to entirely ordinary cars and the vast majority of people wouldn’t look at it twice. “Oh, it’s only an ‘x’,” people will say. If only they knew.

I’ve just spent a couple of days driving this car on UK A- and B-roads that it suited joyously well. We’ve reached the point now when even some of our new and allegedly compact performance cars can feel, at times, like they’ve become uncomfortably large between the hedges and the white lines. We know this – we write about it frequently – and no amount of handling precision or body control can really make up for it.

Well, praise be, this new car really isn’t like that. And as well as being one of the best-sized enthusiast cars I’ve driven in recent times, it’s scandalously sure-footed and has dynamic tuning that seems quite brilliantly judged for devouring cross-country miles at pace. It isn’t over-sprung or over-responsive; it doesn’t feel like a track-day fugitive, because there’s a good dose of pragmatism and progressiveness about its body control; and it has handling manners that allow it to just keep getting better the faster you go.

I can quite appreciate that the car I’m describing may not sound very ‘now’. It was always a risk to make performance cars like this, so plainly and absolutely dedicated to the thrill of speed sampled out in the wild on the public road. There really aren’t many places left where cars like that can be enjoyed at anything like their full potential. Twenty-five years ago, when the likes of the Subaru Impreza and Mitsubishi Lancer Evo were doing their thing and the Lancia Delta Integrale, Audi Quattro and Ford Escort Cosworth hadn’t long finished doing something similar, nobody had even thought that mandatory electronic speed limiters might one day be a thing. These days, the climate in which fast cars exist has changed so much.

And yet there is still a time and a place for lightning to strike, it would seem. The improbably quick, alluringly inexpensive, slightly geeky and cultish, A-to-B-in-a-heartbeat-and-in-any-weather performance car is back – and I can’t wait to tell you more about it.

Matt Saunders
Road test editor
Damnit, I want one. I'll keep repeating myself: I hate Toyota US and I am nearly sure the new "GR Corolla" will be nothing like this.
__________________
Instagram: @spike.brz
Quote:
Originally Posted by humfrz View Post
It sounds to me like the delicate, metallic sounds of piston skirts slapping against the cylinder walls
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tcoat View Post
Now, if it was three feet long and you were using all that leverage
spike021 is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 5 Users Say Thank You to spike021 For This Useful Post:
JesseG (11-05-2020), Racecomp Engineering (11-17-2020), strat61caster (11-06-2020), weederr33 (11-05-2020), why? (11-15-2020)
Old 11-05-2020, 06:05 PM   #537
Sasquachulator
Pavement Grey
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Drives: 2020 Toyota 86 GT, 2017 BMW X1
Location: Calgary
Posts: 3,084
Thanks: 109
Thanked 2,223 Times in 1,205 Posts
Mentioned: 8 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by spike021 View Post
Damnit, I want one. I'll keep repeating myself: I hate Toyota US and I am nearly sure the new "GR Corolla" will be nothing like this.
Hopefully they surprise and the GR Corolla ends up being just a bigger Yaris GR.
Sasquachulator is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to Sasquachulator For This Useful Post:
Goingnowherefast (11-06-2020), spike021 (11-05-2020), weederr33 (11-07-2020)
Old 11-06-2020, 08:06 AM   #538
Galerion
Member
 
Galerion's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2020
Drives: Toyota GR Yaris
Location: Germany
Posts: 28
Thanks: 8
Thanked 74 Times in 25 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Gran Turismo players can rejoice. The car will be added along with a Time Trial event on November 13th to the game



https://www.gran-turismo.com/gb/news/00_4311773.html
Galerion is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Galerion For This Useful Post:
HachiRokuX (11-17-2020)
Old 11-06-2020, 10:45 AM   #539
strat61caster
-
 
strat61caster's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Drives: '13 FRS - STX
Location: SF Bay Area
Posts: 10,366
Thanks: 13,733
Thanked 9,479 Times in 4,998 Posts
Mentioned: 94 Post(s)
Tagged: 3 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasquachulator View Post
Hopefully they surprise and the GR Corolla ends up being just a bigger Yaris GR.
I don't think you read the above. That would completely kill what's great about the gr Yaris.

Look at the focus st vs the fiesta st, over and over again the fiesta was declared the more fun car.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Guff View Post
ineedyourdiddly
strat61caster is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to strat61caster For This Useful Post:
beltax90 (11-06-2020), spike021 (11-08-2020), why? (11-15-2020)
Old 11-07-2020, 06:39 AM   #540
JD001
Senior Member
 
JD001's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Drives: Subaru BRZ
Location: UK
Posts: 6,028
Thanks: 7,652
Thanked 6,187 Times in 3,474 Posts
Mentioned: 25 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
At the Ring, both the "normal" version and the more hardcore which makes its appearance about 1m into the video.

JD001 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-08-2020, 02:58 PM   #541
JD001
Senior Member
 
JD001's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Drives: Subaru BRZ
Location: UK
Posts: 6,028
Thanks: 7,652
Thanked 6,187 Times in 3,474 Posts
Mentioned: 25 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Very long video review...

JD001 is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to JD001 For This Useful Post:
beltax90 (11-08-2020)
Old 11-08-2020, 05:35 PM   #542
beltax90
Senior Member
 
beltax90's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2019
Drives: 2010 corolla
Location: california
Posts: 1,404
Thanks: 1,520
Thanked 1,798 Times in 780 Posts
Mentioned: 7 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
maan, am i gonna have to wait 25 years for this thing....?
beltax90 is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to beltax90 For This Useful Post:
JD001 (11-09-2020), spike021 (11-08-2020), strat61caster (11-08-2020)
Old 11-08-2020, 08:29 PM   #543
Spuds
The Dictater
 
Spuds's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2017
Drives: '13 Red Scion FRS
Location: MD, USA
Posts: 9,432
Thanks: 26,115
Thanked 12,433 Times in 6,148 Posts
Mentioned: 85 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by beltax90 View Post
maan, am i gonna have to wait 25 years for this thing....?
Yes.
Spuds is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to Spuds For This Useful Post:
JD001 (11-09-2020), spike021 (11-08-2020), strat61caster (11-08-2020)
Old 11-08-2020, 09:14 PM   #544
Kaotic Lazagna
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Drives: GR Corolla
Location: Lathrop, CA
Posts: 4,926
Thanks: 3,087
Thanked 3,017 Times in 1,859 Posts
Mentioned: 40 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by beltax90 View Post
maan, am i gonna have to wait 25 years for this thing....?
It's a limited production vehicle (albeit way more than the 500 that NHTSA looks at).

https://www.nhtsa.gov/sites/nhtsa.do...152012-tag.pdf

You can try to apply for a show and display registration with the reason of being "that the vehicle is of exceptional technological and/or historical significance."

Better have your arguments for that handy. lol
Kaotic Lazagna is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-09-2020, 09:29 PM   #545
Guru Woodman
Senior Member
 
Guru Woodman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Drives: 2015 BRZ Sport Tech CWP
Location: Ontario Canada
Posts: 515
Thanks: 265
Thanked 636 Times in 269 Posts
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Great video. Now I need one, but I can't.

__________________
Guru Woodman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-09-2020, 11:04 PM   #546
weederr33
Airborne at your service
 
weederr33's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Drives: '17 BRZ Series.Yellow
Location: El Paso, Texas
Posts: 6,326
Thanks: 4,529
Thanked 5,587 Times in 2,929 Posts
Mentioned: 33 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
__________________
Series.Yellowbird - http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=122135

MS, CSCS, TSAC-F, CPT
weederr33 is offline   Reply With Quote
 
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Toyota Yaris GR Sport revealed ahead of Paris debut gymratter Other Vehicles & General Automotive Discussions 8 09-16-2018 02:04 PM
Toyota Yaris WRC announced vh_supra26 Other Vehicles & General Automotive Discussions 55 08-12-2017 05:59 AM
My Review of 2011 Toyota Yaris (Loaner Car) danthedirt Other Vehicles & General Automotive Discussions 19 07-13-2012 02:42 PM
2012 Toyota Yaris Dark Other Vehicles & General Automotive Discussions 13 10-10-2010 11:57 AM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:54 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging v3.3.0 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

Garage vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.