4th gen ND Mazda MX-5 Miata

[krayzie]

Originally Posted by funwheeldrive

Turbo twin is never going to happen.

Neither a Turbo Miata.

[Yoshoobaroo]

Originally Posted by krayzie

Neither a Turbo Miata.

Already happened

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...iata-road-test

[wbradley]

Originally Posted by krayzie

Neither a Turbo Miata.

Fiat Spider Abarth

[krayzie]

Originally Posted by Yoshoobaroo

Already happened

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...iata-road-test

Originally Posted by wbradley

Fiat Spider Abarth

Was thinking of the current ND Miata my bad.





Wasn't that Mazdaspeed Miata the slowest one of all?

[WolfpackS2k]

Not even remotely.

enough with the turbo talk. if a tiny company like Mazda can offer 2 engines in it's sports car AND bump up it's power by almost 25% (without a turbo) then asking Subaru to squeeze another 20-30 hp from it's FA20 isn't being too greedy.

[cys19]

Originally Posted by WolfpackS2k

Not even remotely.

enough with the turbo talk. if a tiny company like Mazda can offer 2 engines in it's sports car AND bump up it's power by almost 25% (without a turbo) then asking Subaru to squeeze another 20-30 hp from it's FA20 isn't being too greedy.

Miata's build quality is superior too. Toyobaru has a lot to catch up on.

[Yoshoobaroo]

Originally Posted by cys19

Miata's build quality is superior too. Toyobaru has a lot to catch up on.

Are the ND miatas galvanized yet? Cause Mazdas rust away to nothing in 10 years here in FL.

[funwheeldrive]

Originally Posted by cys19

Miata's build quality is superior too. Toyobaru has a lot to catch up on.

Yeah I can't wait until 86 transmissions start grenading on stock power.

Also, have you seen how quickly new Miata tops rip? It's embarrassing.

[OND]

Originally Posted by WolfpackS2k

Not even remotely.

enough with the turbo talk. if a tiny company like Mazda can offer 2 engines in it's sports car AND bump up it's power by almost 25% (without a turbo) then asking Subaru to squeeze another 20-30 hp from it's FA20 isn't being too greedy.

Going from 150-->180hp vs 200-->230hp in a 2.0 NA engine that has to comply with current day emission regulations is nowhere near the same thing.

Originally Posted by cys19

Miata's build quality is superior too. Toyobaru has a lot to catch up on.

Just look at this shit:

[WolfpackS2k]

I'm aware it's not exactly the same thing but it's certainly feasible and well within Subaru's resources. To a degree the emissions excuse is just a cop out.

[funwheeldrive]

Originally Posted by WolfpackS2k

I'm aware it's not exactly the same thing but it's certainly feasible and well within Subaru's resources. To a degree the emissions excuse is just a cop out.

Id rather Subaru try to reduce weight while sticking with the 205hp engine. I don't think it would be hard for them to reach 2,6XXlbs, but instead the car seems to get heavier with every model year.

[Yoshoobaroo]

On the other hand it's not fair to hold the extra 250 lbs against the twins. They come with a roof, 2 extra seats, and a useable trunk. And a gearbox that doesn't eat itself.

[funwheeldrive]

Originally Posted by Yoshoobaroo

On the other hand it's not fair to hold the extra 250 lbs against the twins. They come with a roof, 2 extra seats, and a useable trunk. And a gearbox that doesn't eat itself.

Isn't the difference closer to 450lbs? I agree with your point though. The ND doesn't even have a glovebox. Which is fine for a weekend car, not great for a dedicated daily driver.

[NARFALICIOUS]

Originally Posted by funwheeldrive

Isn't the difference closer to 450lbs? I agree with your point though. The ND doesn't even have a glovebox. Which is fine for a weekend car, not great for a dedicated daily driver.

What do you use a glove box for during the week that you don't need on the weekend?