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Old 02-23-2019, 11:23 PM   #15
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Also, I've got to ask the OP... and this is 9TRULY out of curiosity, and not an attack.
There are a LOT of grammatical.. ummm.. idiosyncrasies in your post. Is that due to a spoken word transcription app, English is not your native language, or some other reason?
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Just curious... if you're looking for a car "with some looks to make my drive a little more interesting"... how do you see what your car looks like while you're driving it? I can barely see a little bit of the hood, and that's about it. If you're asking if we think the 86 would be a good car for you to please other people and make them think you're driving a cool car, I have no idea... mostly because I don't care in the least about stuff like that.

If you're "someone’s that is always on top of maintenance with a car," then pretty much any car will last a very long time. The 86 is no worse than any other car in terms of longevity when cared for, and probably better than most.

You just had to "pay a couple thousands" to have your '05 Corolla fixed, which could indicate a couple things; you did NOT keep on top of the maintenance, some typical stuff all happened at the same time (worn struts/suspension components, brake calipers, rusted fuel or brake lines, A/C issues.. all stuff that would happen to any car that age), and/or you have no interest in or unable to do basic-to-intermediate mechanical work on your own. A new anything, 86 or otherwise, will not be immune to those things eventually, and, if you buy one, you'll be out another approximately $20K for the purchase on top of whatever repairs you incur. Trying to justify a newer car for solely cost-saving measures is a pretty impossible task.

If you hate your current car and you have the money, buy another one. You don't need us for that. If you're here to ask a bunch of folks on an 86 enthusiast forum if we like the 86, well... ummm.... yes? We do?
I wouldn’t say I wasn’t on top of maintenance but personally the car is old and my parents bought it from a auction and for the price they got it for it was really you get what you pay for. I do understand that buying a newer car for solely saving is impossible. But basically for me to get a newer car like the 86 buying it will be a fresh new start and is it really overall just reliable. Because I heard a lot of stuff like “oh it’s a terrible car” “it’s trash” “the engine trash” “those cars are unreliable” many people bash the car so much as if it’s not capable of running for a long period of time. I just want to know the true purpose is it reliable. Because I don’t play to get another car for a while after I get the 86.
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Yes it's one of the most reliable cars currently on the market.

What helps reliability is the fact it's actually made in Japan.

Suggest you consider the Subaru BRZ, same car, and in my opinion, better looks, including interior look.

Check out the exterior and interior of both the 86 and the BRZ in person, decide which you prefer.

Pay attention to the different available models and features. They differ 86 vs BRZ.

It's getting more difficult than ever before to sort out between models and available features at extra cost, on either car.

Take your time.

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Yes it's one of the most reliable cars currently on the market.

What helps reliability is the fact it's actually made in Japan.

Suggest you consider the Subaru BRZ, same car, and in my opinion, better looks, including interior look.

Check out the exterior and interior of both the 86 and the BRZ in person, decide which you prefer.

Pay attention to the different available models and features. They differ 86 vs BRZ.

It's getting more difficult than ever before to sort out between models and available features at extra cost, on either car.

Take your time.
Thanks been doing research on this car for almost 2 months.
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I wouldn’t say I wasn’t on top of maintenance but personally the car is old and my parents bought it from a auction and for the price they got it for it was really you get what you pay for. I do understand that buying a newer car for solely saving is impossible. But basically for me to get a newer car like the 86 buying it will be a fresh new start and is it really overall just reliable. Because I heard a lot of stuff like “oh it’s a terrible car” “it’s trash” “the engine trash” “those cars are unreliable” many people bash the car so much as if it’s not capable of running for a long period of time. I just want to know the true purpose is it reliable. Because I don’t play to get another car for a while after I get the 86.
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Thanks been doing research on this car for almost 2 months.
I suggest a bit more research if that's what you saw online. I would talk to legitimate owners not get hearsay. For me my 2015 has been quite reliable and has 45k+ miles. I've just kept well on top of recommended maintenance and then some.


Also when posting work on your grammar and typing skills a bit, it looks like a run on and spam bot type deal when its typed up like your post was.
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LOL, Grammar and typing skills, is this a car forum or I went to university and you dont speak good like me forum.

I deal with alot of people who have a limited education, but, I trust them more than, enlightened and educated people who love to critique others.

My experience with Subaru is they are reliable and aftersales service is good, ditto for Toyota.

But, in the end, everything can break, even the best kit, sometimes it's the luck of the draw.

My 86, well its NA and I thrash the guts out of it everyday, it has never missed a beat, only additional outlay was for aftermarket parts to customize or improve and servicing.

My only other imput would be if you purchase used, you get a full service history, poorly serviced vehicles are a big no no.
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LOL, Grammar and typing skills, is this a car forum or I went to university and you dont speak good like me forum.

I deal with alot of people who have a limited education, but, I trust them more than, enlightened and educated people who love to critique others.
We were being honest

It's not really critiquing, the problem is when 3 or 4 people say it looks like a spam bot and it takes more effort to follow
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I might have a bit of a different point of view than some. My 2015 FR-S is my daily driver here in greater Boston area. In 4 1/2 years, I have put 60K miles on my FR-S. I do not track, drift, or auto-x my FR-S even though I drive it briskly almost every day. I haven't modded my vehicle at all. I have stayed with straight, scheduled dealer service. Other than tire choice, mine is stock (after having reverted back from TRD exhaust and intake for the first 30,000 miles) I like to use it for solo long trips and the aftermarket exhaust was just too loud.

I love driving it and get great satisfaction that it gets me where I want to go every day. I am a musician who plays large brass instruments. I am also librarian and treasurer for a 30 piece brass band and have to carry boxes of music and CD's frequently to concerts. So the fact that the trunk is decent sized and the storage space with the seat down is really VERY good is a big plus and a major reason why I cannot replace it with a Miata or maybe even a Supra.

In the summer I use 215/45-17 Michelin Pilot Super Sports on the stock wheels. They ride better, handle much better are a bit quieter than the stock Bridgestone tires. In the winter, I use 205/50-16 Blizzak WS-80s on 16" wheels. Aside from ground clearance, I have NO issues whatsoever driving in crappy snowy conditions.

The most important option I have purchased for my FR-S is the Toyota brand aftermarket center armrest. The big "hole" in the center console just didn't work for me on trips. Other options include an aftermarket shift knob (big white cue-ball round thing), factory GPS (eh...), Weathertechs, factory rear spoiler.

SO I find that MOST of the time, my FR-S is every bit as utilitarian as my 2012 Yaris SE 5-speed that it replaced but is vastly more satisfying to drive. I would much rather drive my FR-S in almost any situation than my wife's 2011 Camry or the 2018 RAV-4 Hybrid that replaced the Camry. Clearly there are space limitations in the FR-S when dealing with more than 2 passengers or trying to transport large boxes, etc. After all it is a SPORTS CAR.

What the FR-S is NOT...
  • The FR-S/86 is not a GT/Touring car, it is a SPORTS CAR. Even though it is a coupe and not a roadster, the ride and general noise level will put many off. It is relatively loud even with the stock exhaust. You get significant tire noise no matter what kind of tires you use. You "feel" the pavement, even with the stock suspension.
  • The 86 is not a muscle car. I find the performance adequate for any driving that I do in my 6 speed manual version. I would probably be disappointed if I had purchased the automatic. In the 7+ year lifespan of the model, the constant complaint is MORE POWER.
  • The 86 is not a family car. The idea of putting even a small kid in the back seat is at best, a pain in the back. I suspect that many young couples who purchased an FR-S/BRZ/86 over the last 7+ years as family transportation, found that it had to be replaced (or augmented) when the first child arrived.

What the FR-S IS...
  • A Hell of a lot of fun.
  • The most engaging car I have ever owned (I am 67 years old).
  • A great choice for empty nesters like my wife and I. Especially since we have a "family" car for situations where needed.
  • And for me over 60,000 miles so far, it has been reliable.

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I might have a bit of a different point of view than some. My 2015 FR-S is my daily driver here in greater Boston area. In 4 1/2 years, I have put 60K miles on my FR-S. I do not track, drift, or auto-x my FR-S even though I drive it briskly almost every day. I haven't modded my vehicle at all. I have stayed with straight, scheduled dealer service. Other than tire choice, mine is stock (after having reverted back from TRD exhaust and intake for the first 30,000 miles) I like to use it for solo long trips and the aftermarket exhaust was just too loud.

I love driving it and get great satisfaction that it gets me where I want to go every day. I am a musician who plays large brass instruments. I am also librarian and treasurer for a 30 piece brass band and have to carry boxes of music and CD's frequently to concerts. So the fact that the trunk is decent sized and the storage space with the seat down is really VERY good is a big plus and a major reason why I cannot replace it with a Miata or maybe even a Supra.

In the summer I use 215/45-17 Michelin Pilot Super Sports on the stock wheels. They ride better, handle much better are a bit quieter than the stock Bridgestone tires. In the winter, I use 205/50-16 Blizzak WS-80s on 16" wheels. Aside from ground clearance, I have NO issues whatsoever driving in crappy snowy conditions.

The most important option I have purchased for my FR-S is the Toyota brand aftermarket center armrest. The big "hole" in the center console just didn't work for me on trips. Other options include an aftermarket shift knob (big white cue-ball round thing), factory GPS (eh...), Weathertechs, factory rear spoiler.

SO I find that MOST of the time, my FR-S is every bit as utilitarian as my 2012 Yaris SE 5-speed that it replaced but is vastly more satisfying to drive. I would much rather drive my FR-S in almost any situation than my wife's 2011 Camry or the 2018 RAV-4 Hybrid that replaced the Camry. Clearly there are space limitations in the FR-S when dealing with more than 2 passengers or trying to transport large boxes, etc. After all it is a SPORTS CAR.

What the FR-S is NOT...
  • The FR-S/86 is not a GT/Touring car, it is a SPORTS CAR. Even though it is a coupe and not a roadster, the ride and general noise level will put many off. It is relatively loud even with the stock exhaust. You get significant tire noise no matter what kind of tires you use. You "feel" the pavement, even with the stock suspension.
  • The 86 is not a muscle car. I find the performance adequate for any driving that I do in my 6 speed manual version. I would probably be disappointed if I had purchased the automatic. In the 7+ year lifespan of the model, the constant complaint is MORE POWER.
  • The 86 is not a family car. The idea of putting even a small kid in the back seat is at best, a pain in the back. I suspect that many young couples who purchased an FR-S/BRZ/86 over the last 7+ years as family transportation, found that it had to be replaced (or augmented) when the first child arrived.

What the FR-S IS...
  • A Hell of a lot of fun.
  • The most engaging car I have ever owned (I am 67 years old).
  • A great choice for empty nesters like my wife and I. Especially since we have a "family" car for situations where needed.
  • And for me over 60,000 miles so far, it has been reliable.

Doug
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