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04-24-2021, 03:37 PM | #1919 |
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Yes, but that misses the point. Not getting the vaccine has a ton of innocent collateral damage(like a wrong way driver) far and above an individual death like a bridge abutment.
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Given the number of doses given, and the results, I'm actually surprised it hasn't done formal approval yet.
In the end, that is why employers cannot mandate it yet, unlike the flu shot. I know the hospital system I work for (which mandates other inoculations to work there) plans to make it mandatory for employees once formally approved by the FDA.
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The timeline I’m considering includes whenever it will be approved, since there’s no reason to doubt that it will.
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I am curious though. For those in here who refuse to be “tested on” with the new vaccines and make comments about whether it’ll be FDA approved, if and when it is approved will you change your mind?
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The concept of "herd immunity" so many people keep talking about is not simple.
Regardless, if you were hoping for 'herd immunity' to be 'the answer' to the pandemic, it's time to put those delusions aside. Below are links to a couple of interesting stories on the topic. The bottom line is, the US will probably never reach the point of enough people being vaccinated to eradicate COVID from the country. Between the anti-vaxxers and the less than 100% effectiveness of any vaccine, we almost certainly won't ever reach the point of having enough people immune to eradicate the virus. We would have to vaccinate virtually every person in the country, and that obviously isn't going to happen. The best we can hope for is some form of control, which will vary from state to state depending on immunization levels. Some areas may be relatively safe, while others will become permanent cesspools of contagion, in correlation with the levels of vaccination. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...id/7139419002/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/coronav...h=438e264f4c1a It's such a stupid shame, because eradication is possible. A number of countries around the world have essentially achieved it, such as Australia, New Zealand, Taiwan, China, even 'poor' countries like Vietnam and Bhutan. It was done without complex vaccines or vaccination programs, but using tried-and-proven tools that have worked for centuries: hard lockdown followed by rigorous containment measures, for a short period of time. Life has largely returned to 'normal' in those countries. Unfortunately, too many Americans are selfish, short-sighted, lazy, stupid, and impatient. Too many people just 'couldn't deal with' those kinds of short-term limitations, and too many others are howling about their 'rights'. So, we will be stuck with the SARS-CoV-2 virus forever. We're taking a big chance that a resistant variant doesn't tear through us like a hot knife through warm butter, like the catastrophe devastating India. When and not if that happens, people will run around with their heads in their hands despairing and decrying 'how could this have happened!', but we will only have ourselves to blame. Our actions, and those of some incompetent and/or ignorant leaders (I'm looking at you Ron DeSantis) are to blame. Choose life. Get vaccinated. |
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This was just covered in our mandatory management training.
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Edited: Changed "illegality of requesting proof" to "we are not allowed to request proof", since it may be corporate policy, not law.
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Arkansas recently passed a statute allowing medical personnel to refuse treatment to LGBTQ patients. That will start what is sure to be an interesting fight. I can think of a half dozen SC cases that should kick that to the curb. But, as I note, we shall see.
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Did they mention of unvaccinated employees would have to continue masking and other safe practices vs. vaccinated persons would not?
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