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Old 03-18-2016, 02:27 PM   #4117
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Old 03-18-2016, 02:53 PM   #4118
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April Fasttrack recommends reclassifying the BRZ and non TRD FRS to DS....

The springs go on, the springs come off.... Le sigh
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April Fasttrack recommends reclassifying the BRZ and non TRD FRS to DS....

The springs go on, the springs come off.... Le sigh


They completely fucked this up.


Although seeing as the only two national events I'm doing all year are going to be Pro's..pretty sure I'm better off in CS until solo nationals. How the FRS and BRZ ended up two separate classes is beyond retarded.


06-08 NC Miatas are in different classes than the 09-15 NC Miatas now, and an entirely different class than ANY FRS or BRZ? Is the 09+ NC that much better?
***I'm told 500 RPM lower rev limiter on pre 2009 NC's.


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Old 03-18-2016, 03:34 PM   #4120
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Although seeing as the only two national events I'm doing all year are going to be Pro's..pretty sure I'm better off in CS until solo nationals. How the FRS and BRZ ended up two separate classes is beyond retarded.
This (the overall set of proposed changes) is some of the predictions from the times of hoosier/street-tire teeth-gnashing debacle coming true. We kinda knew going in that more than a single car was going to be classed far enough off to suggest a change. Nice to see them trying to re-populate DS, though. Still feels like a patch-job.

Divorcing the two cars? Meh. Enough vocal complaining, things get changed. I mean, it took a while, but just look at all the love they're trying to give Porsche now. Squeaky wheels and grease.
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You have beaten me at the internet today. I'm impressed you guys carried the joke that long, this forum is pretty thickheaded most of the time, but then again this is the 'I actually compete' side, should give you guys more credit.




Nvm I lied. Writing letter to class 2017+ BRZ/FRS in CS because gearing change. Precedence set with 09+ NC Miata
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Old 03-20-2016, 12:22 AM   #4122
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The best solution was always banning the parts or giving them to everyone, unfortunately this was shot down by the SEB immediately, and the 86 street community didn't come together and push the idea down their throats... Probably due to the FRS drivers wanting their unfair advantage.
The accusatory tone is uncalled for dude. I'm sure I speak for everyone when I say that I wish Subaru had an equivalent port installed option but no one in their right mind is going to ignore that the parts will aid them in competing with the other cars that race in the class. Why would any FR-S owner ask them to ban parts that help them compete with RX-8s, 350Zs, MR2s, and MX-5 Miatas? You are acting like C-Street is entirely about the FR-S vs. the BRZ but there's a lot of other makes and models that also run in C-Street. I feel bad for BRZ owners that want to run C-Street but you can't put an ounce of blame on any FR-S owner.
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So with the proper prep and on-site equipment, an FR-S could change class reg as the last minute?? Unheard of for stock classes!!! LOL!!

Maybe I can try to dump 8 drivers in my car for the full contingency jackpot!!!

Insane!!

I've thought all along that the Twins belong in DS regardless of Port options.
Next year will be interesting!

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All this drama and nonsense makes me want want to build an old mr2 or civic si. At least then everything would be stable and we could all be friends.

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Congrats to John Wolf for winning CS at the Dixie tour over the weekend. I know I met you at Solo nationals....are you the one with the Giant rear sway bar that I smashed beers with shortly after we ran at nats? Either way, nice win a big class.
John covered some big names/cars in ES quite well, but lost to DS by a tenth raw time....so at this particular event the BRZ's wouldn't have faired to well in DS. FS looks like it was blazing fast too.... Although comparing AS to SS indicates there must have been some rain?


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Congrats to John Wolf for winning CS at the Dixie tour over the weekend. I know I met you at Solo nationals....are you the one with the Giant rear sway bar that I smashed beers with shortly after we ran at nats? Either way, nice win a big class.
John covered some big names/cars in ES quite well, but lost to DS by a tenth raw time....so at this particular event the BRZ's wouldn't have faired to well in DS. FS looks like it was blazing fast too.... Although comparing AS to SS indicates there must have been some rain?


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Dude, you're about a year late with the whining.

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There was rain on Saturday night and morning. No rain during the event, but the site was wet (some standing water) and no early morning sun/wind to help with evaporation when the runs began. CS was in RG2 and it was still damp for 1st and 2nd runs and mostly dried off by Run 3. You needed a solid/clean Run 3 to stay competitive for Day 2. It looked to me like the course got quicker as the day went on when it was completely dry and more rubber was laid down on the surface.

Both days had a pretty straight start/launch so I think that helped the AWD cars a bit. On both courses there were also two pretty tight chicanes into big acceleration zones which probably helped cars with torque. The rest of the course seemed Twin friendly though as it was heavy on transitions and speed maintenance. But yeah, DS was very quick this weekend.

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[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVGnk_jPWzo"]2016 Dixie Championship Tour Both Days 2004 GT3 4th Place trophy in SS - YouTube[/ame]
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Congrats to John Wolf for winning CS at the Dixie tour over the weekend. I know I met you at Solo nationals....are you the one with the Giant rear sway bar that I smashed beers with shortly after we ran at nats? Either way, nice win a big class.
John covered some big names/cars in ES quite well, but lost to DS by a tenth raw time....so at this particular event the BRZ's wouldn't have faired to well in DS. FS looks like it was blazing fast too.... Although comparing AS to SS indicates there must have been some rain?

Any info on the setup? What was working? Video?

http://sololive.scca.com/CS.html

Thanks, man. I didn't do any drinking on Friday at Nats this past year, so I think you have me mistaken for someone else. But if it was Tuesday night, there's no telling.

Dixie is always a blast, but this year was especially fun with the huge class and typical assortment of cars in CS. As a recent convert to the class, I'm excited to be part of such a well represented class. The courses were a lot of fun, but as the post above stated, there were some sections that were tough on cars lacking strong acceleration.

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My Motegi Traklites currently have the fresh tires, so I was on those for Dixie (forecast called for rain). Also have RPF1s that were on for Nats last year.

Car felt great on course. We have a couple sites in NC and VA that are similar enough in general size/surface that I was lucky enough to run on a few times prior to the Tour. I've been really pleased with the car since prepping it last summer, so haven't felt the need to mess with settings much.

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